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So let's break down this new transfer rule thingy ...
Posted on 9/5/17 at 9:27 pm
Posted on 9/5/17 at 9:27 pm
1) Are lesser programs worried that star developed diamond in the rough players might transfer to bigger programs?
2) Are bigger programs worried that they might lose underused players lower on the depth chart to lesser schools, or worse, rivals programs?
3) Will coaches have any say-so about where a player is allowed to transfer-to, as they do now?
4) Is it really possible that a good player might transfer to another school if they've become entrenched with their current program, fans, curriculum?
5) What is a program headed for major probabtion and sanctions were to have 35 kids wanting to transfer at one time? Does the program losing the players get to sign 50 in the next class? Or are they forced to fold and not field a team?
6) How do incoming players, potential transfers, count against the current roster and scholarship limits for that academic year?
What are some other questions that are raised by the potential of this happening ... if implemented? I mean this is a seriously slippery slope.
What are the academic requirements? 2.0 and in good standing? 2.5, 3.0? And what about minimum hours credited ... 24 per academic year, 30 hrs per academic year?
I mean damn.
2) Are bigger programs worried that they might lose underused players lower on the depth chart to lesser schools, or worse, rivals programs?
3) Will coaches have any say-so about where a player is allowed to transfer-to, as they do now?
4) Is it really possible that a good player might transfer to another school if they've become entrenched with their current program, fans, curriculum?
5) What is a program headed for major probabtion and sanctions were to have 35 kids wanting to transfer at one time? Does the program losing the players get to sign 50 in the next class? Or are they forced to fold and not field a team?
6) How do incoming players, potential transfers, count against the current roster and scholarship limits for that academic year?
What are some other questions that are raised by the potential of this happening ... if implemented? I mean this is a seriously slippery slope.
What are the academic requirements? 2.0 and in good standing? 2.5, 3.0? And what about minimum hours credited ... 24 per academic year, 30 hrs per academic year?
I mean damn.
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Posted on 9/5/17 at 9:31 pm to scrooster
Um can't the school determine who you're allowed to transfer too? Like currently you cant transfer from one SEC school to another right?
Posted on 9/5/17 at 9:34 pm to TigerCruise
You can but you cannot immediately go on scholarship.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 9:35 pm to scrooster
We don't know, but I'll tell you on the surface that I do not like it.
There better be some serious penalties for tampering than if they do this. If not, it's going to be open season.
There better be some serious penalties for tampering than if they do this. If not, it's going to be open season.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 9:53 pm to TigerCruise
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Um can't the school determine who you're allowed to transfer too? Like currently you cant transfer from one SEC school to another right?
It's up to the coach right now. Will mUSChamp allowed David Williams to transfer to Arkansas and play this year as a graduate transfer. We've recently taken a couple of transfers from Auburn ... but they have to sit out a year.
It's a big question because, if I am reading the gist of the new rule correctly, if passed, a player can go wherever he wants to go.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 9:56 pm to scrooster
Not that hard to figure out.
1. You have 85 players on your team. You find them however the frick you can
2. Players can play on any team they want to if there is space.
1. You have 85 players on your team. You find them however the frick you can
2. Players can play on any team they want to if there is space.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 10:19 pm to Salt Lick
So lemme Tucker Carlson you for a moment since it's so simple ... and ask the main question again.
If a team is set to go on probabtion of some sort, let's use Ole Miss as an example ... and 35 underclassmen decide to transfer because they're not going to go bowling ... what happens to Ole Miss? Suddenly they find themselves with, let's say, 25 scholarship players remaining on their roster after graduation and normal attrition ... how is that ground ever made-up?
Or let's say a major player like an All-American whatever suddenly decides he wants to transfer to Bama, and Bama is going to make room for him by processing (refusing to renew a contract) another player but they've already signed 25 with the new class ... does the transfer player count towards last year's class, this year's class, next year's class ... what?
If a team is set to go on probabtion of some sort, let's use Ole Miss as an example ... and 35 underclassmen decide to transfer because they're not going to go bowling ... what happens to Ole Miss? Suddenly they find themselves with, let's say, 25 scholarship players remaining on their roster after graduation and normal attrition ... how is that ground ever made-up?
Or let's say a major player like an All-American whatever suddenly decides he wants to transfer to Bama, and Bama is going to make room for him by processing (refusing to renew a contract) another player but they've already signed 25 with the new class ... does the transfer player count towards last year's class, this year's class, next year's class ... what?
Posted on 9/5/17 at 10:30 pm to scrooster
I'm trying to figure out if the chaos this decision could lead to is worth it. I don't see how this could be a good thing.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 10:49 pm to Salt Lick
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1. You have 85 players on your team. You find them however the frick you can
2. Players can play on any team they want to if there is space.
Sounds good to me.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 10:52 pm to scrooster
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If a team is set to go on probabtion of some sort, let's use Ole Miss as an example ... and 35 underclassmen decide to transfer because they're not going to go bowling ... what happens to Ole Miss? Suddenly they find themselves with, let's say, 25 scholarship players remaining on their roster after graduation and normal attrition ... how is that ground ever made-up?
That can pretty much happen now. Cheat better next time so you don't get caught.
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does the transfer player count towards last year's class, this year's class, next year's class ... what?
I'm pretty sure transfers don't count as part of a recruiting class.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 11:12 pm to scrooster
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I mean this is a seriously slippery slope.
Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but a midseason transfer would be troubling indeed. I really don't have an issue with a lot of the other points you raised, but this one could become a problem.
Imagine the following scenario:
Christian McCaffrey is having a Heisman-caliber season, but Stanford dropped a couple early games. McCaffrey knows well before Nov. 1 that Stanford will not make the playoffs. He decides to transfer to Alabama, which actually has a shot at the championship. He joins the team just in time for Alabama's November slate (typically including LSU and Auburn), the SECCG, and the playoff.
Worse: McCaffrey incites a bidding war between Alabama and Clemson and several other schools that believe they have a shot at the playoff.
Posted on 9/6/17 at 12:18 am to TxTiger82
Pretty sure you still can't do a midseason transfer and be eligible. That would be outrageous for both the athletic reasons you outlined, as well as academic reasons.
A school only accepts a transfer student between terms. You can't transfer in the middle of a semester/quarter and jump into classes that have been going on for six weeks.
A school only accepts a transfer student between terms. You can't transfer in the middle of a semester/quarter and jump into classes that have been going on for six weeks.
Posted on 9/6/17 at 12:19 am to scrooster
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3) Will coaches have any say-so about where a player is allowed to transfer-to, as they do now?
I think they are trying to take that away.....hence these new rules.
Posted on 9/6/17 at 12:23 am to RogerTempleton
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A school only accepts a transfer student between terms. You can't transfer in the middle of a semester/quarter and jump into classes that have been going on for six weeks
Playoffs start after fall semester is over. What would stop a player from transferring once he's completed his fall credits?
Posted on 9/6/17 at 1:53 am to FairhopeTider
I think there would be less chaos than we first assume.
Realistically, P5 starters won't be transferring. The move just isn't worth the risk when you're gaining little to no exposure.
The biggest result would be guys buried in depth charts trickling out to other teams. I think the rule would help balance rosters for the bottom 95% of teams, and wouldn't affect the top 5% much if at all.
The only real losers here are the non P5 schools. Because their better players will absolutely transfer out so they can get more exposure.
The lesser to mid P5 schools would benefit the most. Your good players aren't transferring out, your backups would be less likely to trickle down, etc... Plus those schools are the sweet spot for transfers, maximize exposure while minimizing the risk of not getting the job and effectively wasting your one transfer.
Realistically, P5 starters won't be transferring. The move just isn't worth the risk when you're gaining little to no exposure.
The biggest result would be guys buried in depth charts trickling out to other teams. I think the rule would help balance rosters for the bottom 95% of teams, and wouldn't affect the top 5% much if at all.
The only real losers here are the non P5 schools. Because their better players will absolutely transfer out so they can get more exposure.
The lesser to mid P5 schools would benefit the most. Your good players aren't transferring out, your backups would be less likely to trickle down, etc... Plus those schools are the sweet spot for transfers, maximize exposure while minimizing the risk of not getting the job and effectively wasting your one transfer.
Posted on 9/6/17 at 2:40 am to scrooster
Something else. If players follow the coach to a bigger program, that means players lose their scholarship.
Posted on 9/6/17 at 3:41 am to scrooster
As much as I hate it, the players should have the freedom to go wherever they are acedimically eligible and a team accepts them. All these restrictions are in place to protect a product for us as consumers that places our needs above the players.
Posted on 9/6/17 at 4:04 am to scrooster
I don't like it all. Not only is it a lot more likely for kids to leave programs, it can also lead to bigger programs literally recruiting lesser FBS schools.
Smaller schools may think they are getting one over on bigger programs until that big school has a hole that can be immediately filled by a proven player at a smaller school.
Smaller schools may think they are getting one over on bigger programs until that big school has a hole that can be immediately filled by a proven player at a smaller school.
This post was edited on 9/6/17 at 4:08 am
Posted on 9/6/17 at 4:09 am to scrooster
Saban will put an end to this. Calm down, little one.
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