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re: SMU singlehandedly destroyed the SWC. What could destroy the SEC?

Posted on 7/20/14 at 11:07 pm to
Posted by bhamtbone
North, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
545 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 11:07 pm to
Larry Leo
Posted by agswin
The Republic of Texas
Member since Aug 2011
4339 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 11:20 pm to
quote:

Jackie also was worse than SMU.


The ponies had a higher payroll than the Dallas Cowboys.

SMU got caught cheating like everyone else. Everyone else stopped. SMU kept on paying. Not very smart.

BTW Eric, can we have the gold Firebird back? We paid for it.
Posted by Tiger Live2
Westwego, LA
Member since Mar 2012
9590 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 11:35 pm to
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aTm, LSU, Arkansas, Ole Miss, Alabama and Auburn to the Big 12

As long as we are in the same division. I would be fine with that. Those are the 4 teams I wanna play every year(once), plus Arkansas.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37593 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 11:37 pm to
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mizzoukills


Let's say the mizzourites keep doing things to shame the SEC ... like talking like Yankees, worshipping gheys and, well, being ghey in general ... SEC fans will come en masse and take a million man dump in that freshwater pond full of cattails y'all call your drinking water reservoir.

Then we march on CoMo ... you can imagine what we do to the women and children after that. It involves introducing some alpha male genes into that pussified gene pool up there.
This post was edited on 7/20/14 at 11:38 pm
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 11:44 pm to
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aTm, LSU, Arkansas, Ole Miss, Alabama and Auburn to the Big 12. Mizzou, Tennesse and Kentucky to the Big Ten. Georgia, South Carolina and Florida to the ACC. Vandy and MSU to the American.


Just damn.
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139838 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 9:08 am to
No since you weren't man enough to ask for it at the time. If you believe people stopped paying then I got a ranch near Lubbock that smells like roses to sell you.
This post was edited on 7/21/14 at 9:09 am
Posted by nes2010
Member since Jun 2014
6755 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 9:15 am to
Yea but SMU did cover up all those murdered hookers.
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
19307 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 9:30 am to
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How exactly did SMU destroy the SWC?


They didn't. The SWC had two major problems:

1. It was centered around one state (even when Arkansas was a member, this was a problem)
2. At one time six of the nine schools were on probation for recruiting violations: the only three that weren't were Arkansas, Baylor (too many poor Baptists in a small town), and Rice (too busy creating the next generation of nerds to worry about football).

Losing Arkansas (one of the conference's three major programs) hastened the end.
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
18006 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 9:31 am to
Here is the scenario that I think could destroy the SEC.

The Big Five Conferences are denied the autonomy/Division IV deal that they want.

Student loan bubble begins to burst, and college presidents across the country start turning focus back to academics.

Conference expansion heats up again. Texas and Oklahoma come to the SEC after an actual fight on the floor of the Oklahoma house to keep OU and OSU together. Now we have two Alabamas and three Auburns. Cheating goes to old SWC levels overnight.

The NCAA, more empowered by their academically focused presidents that are jealous of the SEC, demand that the NCAA actually do something. Alabama and Tennessee are put on a 2 year postseason ban.

The non-Big Six schools are caught soon after. MSU and Ole Miss turn each other in. Vandy has another rape scandal and the president de-emphasizes athletics. Georgia is caught in a really big act and is given Penn State like sanctions.

With four teams in a bowl ban, Mike Slive retires from the SEC. The SEC hires the Stanford president as commissioner, who comes in with a "Clean it up" mentality.

On top of it all, the SEC Network becomes a financial failure, and ESPN pulls it. Texas, A&M, Oklahoma, Missouri and Arkansas are lured to the new Great Plains Conference, and the SEC is left with 11. South Carolina and Florida begin talks with the ACC.

In a panic to get to 12 schools and keep the lucrative SEC Championship game, the SEC presidents have a week long summit in Destin. Every possible team that could be added is protested. Florida doesn't want UCF or USF, None of the ACC teams want to leave what has become a formidable conference.

Louisville is somewhat interested, but Kentucky valiantly protests. On the Thursday meeting, Cam Newton, post-career ending injuries announces that he is releasing a tell-all book which proves Auburn was as dirty as we all know they are. Florida and South Carolina announce they are leaving for the ACC on Friday.

The SEC is down to nine schools in six states. Georgia and Alabama, both on probation are considered the leaders. With the Mississippi schools and Tennessee on probation and Vandy in the permanent cellar due to their president's actions. The SEC title race is between LSU, Auburn and Kentucky. Auburn wins the SEC Championship and everyone is pissed because everyone knows they are the biggest cheaters out there.

So everyone gets back to cheating. Jefferson Pilot returns to Saturday mornings around the SEC with no fanfare. Kentucky announces that they are taking more seats out of Commonwealth Stadium.

The SEC isn't dead, per se, but it becomes the old Big East, barely holding on to its Big Five status. Talking heads suggest that ACC runner up Florida and Great Plains runner up Arkansas deserve a playoff bid over SEC Champion Mississippi State.

Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
19307 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 9:32 am to
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texas joining the league


That would wreck the SEC, Big Ten, PAC-12, any conference. If they could get in the NFL they'd wreck it too.

Alabama gets accused of trying to run the SEC. If Texas got in they wouldn't try to hide it.
Posted by dlc83
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2009
1829 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 9:59 am to
Alabama, Florida, LSU and Georgia demand, and receive, more of the pie in football. The SEC goes to an unbalanced payout formula in football, creating animosity within the conference. This leads to Alabama starting to call the shots in the SEC a la Texas in the BIG XII.

This leads KY to demand a similar arrangement in basketball.

Dissatisfied teams start looking at other conferences.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67021 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:01 am to
having Arkansas and Mizzou in it.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:10 am to
anc

I'm going to award you post of the year! Great job.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:10 am to
The entire SWC was corrupt. SMU just got better results from it, for a few years at least.
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18495 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:37 am to
Bagmen revealved.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:39 am to
SMU didn't destroy the conference. It is just politically easier to go after the school without a state in the name.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40091 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:47 am to
If LSU, Bama, UF, UT, UGa, or auburn got the death penalty got the death penalty that would. If A&M got we would just kick them out of the conference and replace them with Tejas. Mizz with OU. UK basketball would hurt but not destroy the conference.

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mizzoukills


your threads suck
Posted by RollTigers
Member since Dec 2010
3274 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:50 am to
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What could destroy the SEC?


Several major schools leaving the conference or creating a new conference.
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:49 am to
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SMU didn't destroy the conference. It is just politically easier to go after the school without a state in the name.


The Governor of Texas (a major SMU supporter) personally ordered the slush-fund payments to continue after SMU's first probation, I think that came in 1983.

I wouldn't exactly call SMU politically weak at that time.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79122 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:53 am to
I think Texas joining would be pretty solid.

They would provide a class injection that is desperately needed. I know they're pricks, but the fan base is stellar and we'd really get some traction in the Lone Star State.
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