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Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:08 pm to Crowknowsbest
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:08 pm to Crowknowsbest
Thanks. What about the oversigning thing, Richt or administration? To me, that really hurts him. You have to have a few oversigned due to kids changing their minds right at the last minute, injuries (boy, he has been jinxed with these a couple of years or more), kids leaving/giving up football or being asked to leave.
Strike the S&C, you addressed that.
Strike the S&C, you addressed that.
This post was edited on 12/1/14 at 4:09 pm
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Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:11 pm to thomass
Hope he stays there forever. Not good enough to win at the highest level...not bad enough to fire. Yet good enough to consistently put L's on our western division rivals.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:11 pm to Mohican
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But it's little details like this that good teams avoid.
With the ebb and flow of parity in the conference divisions, it's gotten down to who makes the least amount of mistakes-coaches and players.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:11 pm to higgs_boson
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Ditch him and you might end up like Tenn
one cannot objectively compare the state of Tennessee with the state of Georgia when it comes to recruiting. if UGA cans Richt they should be able to get a coach that is better. that is if they pay him and the timing is right (as to who is available).
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:12 pm to nc14
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What about the oversigning thing, Richt or administration?
That's Richt, but to his credit, he's been more willing to sign a few extra the last few years.
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S&C
In regard to this, it sounds like Pruitt and Bobo are trying to force the issue, along with Richt. Hopefully we can actually hire a real S&C coach this offseason, not just some guys who helped train Herschel and hung around UGA for awhile.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:13 pm to thomass
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Could you elaborate on this? What type of admin support?
I go back and forth on Richt. I really respect the way he runs his program and if I had a son, apart from my natural hatred of everything UGA, I would really want him playing for a guy like Richt. I think he is a great mentor.
A lot of strange things have happened under his regime. Mettenberger and Nick Marshall immediately come to mind. Two players that were kicked off the team (rightfully so) only to become starters at powerhouses and perform exceptionally well. I don't blame him for that situation. It's also hard to fault him for what happened in 2007. He got a bad deal that year, if he has that team any other season he is probably a NCG winning coach and we aren't even having this convo. Other coaches have won NCGs with much less due to better end of year circumstances.
I do blame Richt for some of the bad losses UGA has had over the years with absolutely loaded teams.
This post was edited on 12/1/14 at 4:15 pm
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:15 pm to thomass
It seems like he used to be on the hot-seat every year, then he survived it for so long that everyone just decided that he's un-fireable.
I don't think he's a terrible coach, but he consistently underachieves... and occasionally overachieves by a little. He's definitely fireable if UGA thinks they can go get a great coach, IMO.
I don't think he's a terrible coach, but he consistently underachieves... and occasionally overachieves by a little. He's definitely fireable if UGA thinks they can go get a great coach, IMO.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:16 pm to Crowknowsbest
So when you say like schools like Bama, etc. You are talking about how Saban (and some others) has been able to fill the athletic complex with football coaches and analysts? It is crazy the size of the staff dedicated to football. I'm thinking about applying. 
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:43 pm to nc14
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So when you say like schools like Bama, etc. You are talking about how Saban (and some others) has been able to fill the athletic complex with football coaches and analysts? It is crazy the size of the staff dedicated to football. I'm thinking about applying.
Exactly. UGA's staff is probably half the size of Bama's, if that. Everybody talks about Saban's attention to detail and Richt's lack thereof, but it's a hell of a lot easier to pay more attention to detail when you have more people to pay attention to those details.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:54 pm to Crowknowsbest
If we really are hamstrung like you say we are (and I believe it), Richt has to be awesome on game day and a lot of the time he isn't. To his credit, he has gotten ballsier with the fake kicks in recent years (fake punt vs Bama being the most notable) but he still gets way, way too conservative when being aggressive is working.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:56 pm to thomass
Shut the frick up alter.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:58 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
As we speak, 247 is reporting that Joe Tereshinski is out as head of S&C
Posted on 12/1/14 at 5:01 pm to Crowknowsbest
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That works against him, but I think the bigger issue is in UGA's unwillingness to support the program in support staff and facility upgrades. The S&C staff is bad, we have half the support and S&C staff that peers do, facilities lag behind, promised upgrades were thrown aside (indoor facility), smaller recruiting budget, etc. UGA's coaching staff is top notch now, but the picture isn't so pretty behind the scenes. Even with assistant coaches, Richt has famously been reprimanded for giving them raises out of his own pocket because the University refused to pay them.
Basically, the administrators and BOR have shown little interest in investing in the program beyond the minimal level to keep fans in the seats. Until that changes, the fans are going to have to learn to live with what we have in Richt.
Did Dooley have the same issues with the UGA administration back when he was coaching? Because if you really look at it, other than the NC in 1980 and 3-4 SECCs over a 25 year span, he essentially coached at the same underachieving level as Richt, IMO.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 5:05 pm to Sid E Walker
I think it's a long-lasting instructional problem, but I don't know enough about the context of how UGA operated the football program back then compared to other schools.
A lot of people point to the Jan Kemp scandal as changing how UGA viewed its football program, which makes sense.
ETA: the fact that UGA's two best coaches are viewed as somewhat underachieving points to the exact issues I'm talking about. It isn't about the coaches.
A lot of people point to the Jan Kemp scandal as changing how UGA viewed its football program, which makes sense.
ETA: the fact that UGA's two best coaches are viewed as somewhat underachieving points to the exact issues I'm talking about. It isn't about the coaches.
This post was edited on 12/1/14 at 5:06 pm
Posted on 12/1/14 at 5:53 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
Seriously you guys waste so much energy worrying about alters. Go out and live in the real world and stop worrying about who's real and who's not.
Is this a Uga thing or are there posters in every forum that constantly accuse others of being alters?
Is this a Uga thing or are there posters in every forum that constantly accuse others of being alters?
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