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Posted on 4/26/17 at 10:32 am to GeauxPack81
Wasn't it 3 of 18?....that's a high %?....really?
Posted on 4/26/17 at 10:35 am to MetryTyger
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And I'll bet Ingram is welcoming AP with open arms
I hope so. Splitting carries extends your career
Posted on 4/26/17 at 10:38 am to DoubleDown
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They call that ignorance where I come from...
Ignorance about Alabama players in the NFL?
I imagine there's alot of ignorant people out there then.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 10:51 am to i am dan
Alabama had six Pro Bowlers this year....twice as many as anybody else, and you're talking about ignorance...that's about right. 
Posted on 4/26/17 at 10:55 am to GeauxPack81
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What I obtained from that article is that Bama alums are more likely to be out of the league than other 1st rounders
Yeah you read it wrong
Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:19 am to StopRobot
Does the article still consider player cut or traded by the team that drafted them a "starter?"Because it seems to do so.
In reality, players like Andre Smith, D.J. Fluker, Chance Warmack, even James Carpenter were allowed to walk. Mark Barron was traded for 4th and 6th round picks (although he's done better after a position change).
Looking at the list and thinking about the players on the list, I'd say that a number of 8-9 starters would be more realistic. It is still quite impressive but Tide Sports seems to guild the lily a bit.
In reality, players like Andre Smith, D.J. Fluker, Chance Warmack, even James Carpenter were allowed to walk. Mark Barron was traded for 4th and 6th round picks (although he's done better after a position change).
Looking at the list and thinking about the players on the list, I'd say that a number of 8-9 starters would be more realistic. It is still quite impressive but Tide Sports seems to guild the lily a bit.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:38 am to bbrownso
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Does the article still consider player cut or traded by the team that drafted them a "starter?"Because it seems to do so.
Of course it does and why wouldn't it? A starter in the league is a starter in the league. Players change teams for a lot of reasons - scheme, team needs, money, not good enough, etc
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I'd say that a number of 8-9 starters would be more realistic.
How is 8-9 NFL starters "more realistic" when the number is actually 15? Reality is always "more realistic."
Article actually does a fair job of laying out the numbers. It fairly calls out the busts and the non-busts and the numbers show that relatively speaking Alabama's first round picks are more likely to go to the pro-bowl (38.9% to league average 27%) are more likely to become full-time NFL starters (83.3% to league average 66.7%) and more likely to be out of the league (16.7% to 10.1%). The latter number represents 3 of the 18 Alabama first round picks to be out of the league (Richardson - just not good enough, McClain - good player but a frick-up off the field) and Milliner (too many injuries). While really not a lot it is higher than the league average.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:42 am to bbrownso
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Does the article still consider player cut or traded by the team that drafted them a "starter?"Because it seems to do so.
In reality, players like Andre Smith, D.J. Fluker, Chance Warmack, even James Carpenter were allowed to walk. Mark Barron was traded for 4th and 6th round picks (although he's done better after a position change).
Yes it does. They are just like fellow busts Peyton Manning and Jared Allen
Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:44 am to elposter
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It fairly calls out the busts and the non-busts and the numbers
It's hilarious. The data are literally RIGHT THERE and they still can't admit that Bama produces good NFL players.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 12:17 pm to StopRobot
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They are just like fellow busts Peyton Manning and Jared Allen
Oh, FFS.
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The Titans aren't expected to re-sign free agent RG Chance Warmack.
Warmack was the No. 10 overall pick in a 2013 first round that was littered with busts. He was one of them. Warmack started all 48 games he appeared in with the Titans. He made just two starts last season before landing on I.R. with a hand injury. He's an average to below-average starter who theoretically should be an asset in the running game as a power blocker at 6'2/323.
Mar 6 - 11:09 AM
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Vikings placed RT Andre Smith on injured reserve with a torn triceps, ending his season. He will undergo surgery on Tuesday.
It's bad news for the Vikings' banged-up offensive line, but hardly a crushing loss. The Vikings dithered and delayed on naming Smith a starter, and his play showed why. Few right tackles have been less effective this season. Jeremiah Sirles will be the Vikings' right tackle moving forward. Going on 30, Smith's career has been headed in the wrong direction for a while now. He'll head back to free agency in 2017. Source: Matt Vensel on Twitter Mon, Oct 10, 2016 03:11:00 PM
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Free agent OG D.J. Fluker is scheduled to visit the Giants. ESPN Giants reporter Jordan Raanan has also heard the Patriots "have strong interest" in Fluker. Fluker has largely underachieved as the 11th overall pick in the 2013 draft, but he offers tackle-guard flexibility and is only 26 years old. At very worst, he could be a useful swing reserve in New York or Foxboro.
Related: Patriots, Giants
Source: Jordan Raanan on Twitter
Mar 10 - 3:19 PM
I can see the comparison holds out really well. They are Peyton Manning and Jared Allen level players.
My main problem was with the use of "starter," which I think we can agree, covers far too many players who are on the verge of not being starters if it can be helped.
But hey, at least you guys did what I expected and jumped into the stereotypical Alabama over-reaction toward anything but full-on praise.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 12:17 pm to coachcrisp
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Alabama had six Pro Bowlers this year....twice as many as anybody else, and you're talking about ignorance...that's about right.
No, what I said is that normal people don't care. I don't care how many Auburn players were in it.. probably zero, I don't know.
Don't try dragging others into your psychotic fandom bullshite. That's what I was saying. There comes a point where people are too much into these sports. That point is in your rearview mirror. That's fine, but don't denigrate others because they're not as into this crap as you are.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 12:34 pm to i am dan
Dan, explain something to me. Why is a person who has NO interest in all the "fandom bullshite" 1) reading through a thread that's obviously about prior SEC players and the NFL, AND 2) responding to a post on that thread?...weird 
Oh, and this isn't your first post on this thread....even more weird.
Oh, and this isn't your first post on this thread....even more weird.
This post was edited on 4/26/17 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 4/26/17 at 12:40 pm to i am dan
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No, what I said is that normal people don't care. I don't care how many Auburn players were in it.. probably zero, I don't know.
Don't try dragging others into your psychotic fandom bull shite. That's what I was saying. There comes a point where people are too much into these sports. That point is in your rearview mirror. That's fine, but don't denigrate others because they're not as into this crap as you are.
I root for my fellow Alabama alums in everything. Sports is just the most visible. I root for people from Mobile the same way.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 12:42 pm to bbrownso
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I can see the comparison holds out really well. They are Peyton Manning and Jared Allen level players.
I went absurd to prove the absurdity of your argument. That just because a player is traded that they are not successful players.
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I can see the comparison holds out really well. They are Peyton Manning and Jared Allen level players. My main problem was with the use of "starter," which I think we can agree, covers far too many players who are on the verge of not being starters if it can be helped.
If you are a starter in the NFL you arent a bust. You are a good player
Posted on 4/26/17 at 12:52 pm to coachcrisp
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Dan, explain something to me. Why is a person who has NO interest in all the "fandom bullshite" 1) reading through a thread that's obviously about prior SEC players and the NFL, AND 2) responding to a post on that thread?...weird Oh, and this isn't your first post on this thread....even more weird.
Boredom. I don't mind talking football. I love college football, but you guys get all pissy and argue over the dumbest things. I stayed away from this board for a while because of it.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 12:53 pm to i am dan
Well it ain't changed, so...
Posted on 4/26/17 at 12:56 pm to coachcrisp
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Well it ain't changed, so...
I agree. Time for another break.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 1:43 pm to StopRobot
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Yeah you read it wrong
No, no I didn't:
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Since 2009, UA has had 18 players drafted in the first round.... Three of those 18 (16.7 percent) are out of the league.
By contrast, the rest of the first-rounders since 2009 produced the following.... 24 of 237 (10.1) percent are out of the league.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 6:11 pm to i am dan
quote:Come back when you can stay longer.
I agree. Time for another break.
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