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re: Simple question: why don't these 6 women sue the alleged people instead of UT?
Posted on 2/23/16 at 11:40 am to Wishnitwas1998
Posted on 2/23/16 at 11:40 am to Wishnitwas1998
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I love how this being treated differently than when student athletes commit other types of crimes
what types of crimes? there would be no claim to be made for crimes such as underage drinking, DUI, theft, etc. This lawsuit is based on the conduct of UT employees in dealing with their alleged negligence and non-action in dealing with sexual assault claims. UT is not being sued based on the conduct of the student athletes. They are being sued based on the conduct of their employees' handling of the conduct of their student athletes. You need to at least understand basic legal concepts if you don't want to run the risk of sounding completely ignorant.
Now, I'm not saying I necessarily believe this lawsuit has a lot of merit, but the nature of your complaints are ignorant.
This post was edited on 2/23/16 at 11:43 am
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 11:42 am to Wishnitwas1998
Because they feel UTk is responsible for fostering a misogynistic culture.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 11:44 am to lsufball19
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UT is not being sued based on the conduct of the student athletes. They are being sued based on the conduct of their employees' handling of the conduct of their student athletes.
This.
The school has an obligation under Title IX. This lawsuit is accusing the school of failing to meet that obligation.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 12:02 pm to r2d2
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If complaints were filed at the University in some sort of official capacity, even more so if to more than one person or department, and those were either neglected or not properly handled then the institution could be liable.
Zero evidence of this currently
Posted on 2/23/16 at 12:07 pm to Wishnitwas1998
Oh. So you know exactly what evidence they have? Hard to believe you are a lawyer working on this case.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 12:10 pm to lsufball19
Lawyers go after the deep pockets.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 12:10 pm to Wishnitwas1998
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Zero evidence of this currently
well then that will be a matter decided upon by the court. If there is no evidence, then the court will dismiss the claim
Posted on 2/23/16 at 12:11 pm to lsufball19
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the lawsuit is based on allegations that the university tried to cover it up, not that the university is responsible for the acts happening.
Actually the lawsuit alleges that the Athletic department created a "rape culture", so in a way, they are alleging the University is responsible for the acts happening.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 12:14 pm to lsufball19
A) the women believe that UT could have prevented such things happening and that UT created an environment that made this happen to them
B) of course you go after money - you're not going to get anything else back. You're stuck with the trauma until the day you die. We live in a society that validates justice in dollar amounts it is what it is. And if you're trying to get UT to change its ways the only way is to hit their pockets
this is all from their point of view I judge not either way
B) of course you go after money - you're not going to get anything else back. You're stuck with the trauma until the day you die. We live in a society that validates justice in dollar amounts it is what it is. And if you're trying to get UT to change its ways the only way is to hit their pockets
this is all from their point of view I judge not either way
Posted on 2/23/16 at 12:16 pm to cajunbama
quote:and they're correct.
Because they feel UTk is responsible for fostering a misogynistic culture.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 12:18 pm to TT9
TT9 and cajunbama suck each other's micropeens and talk about Tennessee all day every day.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 12:18 pm to Wishnitwas1998
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Zero evidence of this currently
Maybe, but that is what discovery is for.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 12:20 pm to Wishnitwas1998
They alleged that UT created a culture that enabled them and a system that was biased against victims when they reported sexual assualts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 12:20 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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Actually the lawsuit alleges that the Athletic department created a "rape culture", so in a way, they are alleging the University is responsible for the acts happening.
yes, in a way. but they are not being sued for the acts themselves. they are being sued basically for their negligence in non-responsiveness, which in turn allegedly created a culture to exist.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 12:20 pm to Wishnitwas1998
We don't even know that the major case under investigation even happened but if it did, those specific people are totally to blame, not the university. UT hasn't fostered any kind of rape culture, it just happens to be the location where allegedly stuff happened, that could've happened anywhere. Butch and our athletic dept. has clearly shown a zero tolerance policy for any form of sexual abuse or assault, kicking players off just for being accused (not arrested or convicted, mind you). But of course, like has been previously stated, the suit is directed and UT because it's a money grab and that's where the money is.
This post was edited on 2/23/16 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 2/23/16 at 12:22 pm to rockytop627
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Butch and our athletic dept. has clearly shown a zero tolerance policy for any form of sexual abuse or assault, kicking players off just for being accused (not arrested or convicted, mind you).
this isn't only based on Butch or the current administration.
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UT hasn't fostered any kind of rape culture, it just happens to be the location where allegedly stuff happened, that could've happened anywhere
that is for the court to decide
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those specific people are totally to blame, not the university
if UT did not respond to allegations that were brought to their attention, then both are to blame. and again, that is for the court to determine.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 12:23 pm to lsufball19
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yes, in a way. but they are not being sued for the acts themselves. they are being sued basically for their negligence in non-responsiveness, which in turn allegedly created a culture to exist.
In the lawsuit, they actually try to blame "Third Down for What" for fostering a "rape culture".
If you read the thing, it's quite bizarre.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 12:24 pm to rockytop627
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We don't even know that the major case under investigation even happened but if it did, those specific people are totally to blame, not the university. UT hasn't fostered any kind of rape culture, it just happens to be the location where allegedly stuff happened, that could've happened anywhere. Butch and our athletic dept. has clearly shown a zero tolerance policy for any form of sexual abuse or assault, kicking players off just for being accused (not arrested or convicted, mind you).
I get that a lot of Vols people feel this way and I am not saying this isn't a valid argument
but from the point of view of the women they could see this as a failure to be protected by the University of Tennessee's policies
I'm not saying they're right or wrong - that's for the courts but to characterize them as simply people out for money for a big pay day won't make you look good
This post was edited on 2/23/16 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 2/23/16 at 12:24 pm to Wishnitwas1998
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 12:31 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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In the lawsuit, they actually try to blame "Third Down for What" for fostering a "rape culture".
Meh, lawyers throw all the mud against the wall to see what sticks.
If administrators at UT tried to cover up or encourage bad behavior the school with get hammered. If not all that mess will be thrown out in court.
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