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re: SIAP UCF to hang a national championship banner in their stadium

Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:56 am to
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:56 am to
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Siri... define intellectual dishonesty...


Look who it is...

Tell us simple people about the Advanced Stats! behind all of this.
Posted by PNW
Northern Rockies
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:56 am to
UcF gave up 23.5 points per game to teams that never sniffed "receiving votes"
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
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Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:00 am to
Snowflakes
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:00 am to
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Look who it is...

Tell us simple people about the Advanced Stats! behind all of this.


I could say the same... no advanced stats needed here... you're the one making the claim that the UCF schedule is roughly equivalent to Bama's... proof is in the pudding... splain it to us dumb SEC fans.
Posted by LarryCLE
Member since Apr 2017
1547 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:03 am to
The 2008 Utah team had a much more legitimate claim to the national championship than UCF does this year. I don’t remember them hanging banners or having parades.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72013 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:03 am to
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I could say the same... no advanced stats needed here... you're the one making the claim that the UCF schedule is roughly equivalent to Bama's... proof is in the pudding... splain it to us dumb SEC fans.


I responded to someone else's claims. Once those are proven, we can dig into anything else.

Any other questions?
Posted by PNW
Northern Rockies
Member since Mar 2014
6193 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:05 am to
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The 2008 Utah team had a much more legitimate claim to the national championship than UCF does this year. I don’t remember them hanging banners or having parades.


I think it's because UcF knows their place in their state. It's little brother syndrome at its finest.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
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Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:07 am to
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Any other questions?


Why are you on a month long melt?
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58919 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:11 am to
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They have a better claim to the championship than either Bama or UGA.
Make a case. How do they have a better claim?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72013 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:14 am to
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I don’t remember them hanging banners or having parades.


Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72013 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:14 am to
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melt


You need to look this word up in a dictionary.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58919 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:15 am to
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UCF schedule is roughly equivalent to Bama's...


According to Sagarin, UCF played the 72nd toughest schedule and Alabama played the 47th toughest schedule.
Georgia the 18th toughest.

LINK
Posted by Pickle_Weasel
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:19 am to
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According to Sagarin, UCF played the 72nd toughest schedule and Alabama played the 47th toughest schedule.
Georgia the 18th toughest.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but Alabama only beat 2 teams that finished ranked (using AP poll) at the end of the season (LSU at #16 and MSU at #24). Whereas UCF also beat 2 teams that finished ranked at the end of the season (Memphis at #19 and South Florida at #23).

Disclaimer - not at all saying UCF had a schedule even close to the same strength as Alabama's.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:19 am to
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I responded to someone else's claims. Once those are proven, we can dig into anything else.


This was the post you responded to... There was literally nothing to be proven there. It was purely a speculative rhetorical question.

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all you ucf natty pumpers would be perfectly fine with say, bama, uga, tosu, uscw, texas, oklahoma or any top level power 5 team taking a year off from power 5. they go play the exact same schedule that ucf played this year and go undefeated. every one of you would be clamoring for them to be in the playoffs, right?


Seems like we're good to go, yeah? Now you can help our feeble minds comprehend how UCF's schedule is in the same ballpark as Bama.
Posted by LarryCLE
Member since Apr 2017
1547 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:20 am to
Was that a national championship parade or just a Sugar Bowl victory parade?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72013 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:22 am to
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There was literally nothing to be proven there. It was purely a speculative rhetorical question.



Wrong.

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all you ucf natty pumpers would be perfectly fine with say, bama, uga, tosu, uscw, texas, oklahoma or any top level power 5 team taking a year off from power 5.


There you go.

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Seems like we're good to go, yeah? Now you can help our feeble minds comprehend how UCF's schedule is in the same ballpark as Bama.


Not yet, although someone else has already posted a significantly better source of information.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72013 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:23 am to
Who cares.

It was a parade.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35642 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:38 am to
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There has been an agreed upon system, of one kind or another (Bowl Coalition/Bowl Alliance/BCS), in place since 1992.
2003 USC says hi.
Posted by CFB_Lummys
Baltimore
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:39 am to
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:42 am to
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all you ucf natty pumpers would be perfectly fine with say, bama, uga, tosu, uscw, texas, oklahoma or any top level power 5 team taking a year off from power 5.


There you go.


It has a period, but it's obviously a rhetorical question/statement... If a P5 traditional power took a year off and only played G5/FCS teams, would *you* be fine if they went undefeated and took a playoff spot.

What is there to "prove" about that?

If you can't back up your garbage claim, just go ahead and admit it for everyone and we can all move on.


ETA... if you read the entire statement again... it's clearly a somewhat poorly constructed sequence of statements that end in a question...

quote:

all you ucf natty pumpers would be perfectly fine with say, bama, uga, tosu, uscw, texas, oklahoma or any top level power 5 team taking a year off from power 5. they go play the exact same schedule that ucf played this year and go undefeated. every one of you would be clamoring for them to be in the playoffs, right?


So... hypothetical scenario is set up: Blueblood drops down in SOS difficulty > goes undefeated > you would want them in the playoffs because they were undefeated > rhetorical question mark
This post was edited on 1/4/18 at 11:46 am
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