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re: SIAP UCF to hang a national championship banner in their stadium
Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:21 am to crimsontater
Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:21 am to crimsontater
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every one of you would be clamoring for them to be in the playoffs, right?
Are you saying they wouldn't get in the playoff? Alabama did, and their schedule wasn't that far off from UCF's.
Bonus: Bama had a loss against their schedule.
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Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:22 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Alabama did, and their schedule wasn't that far off from UCF's.
Tell me more about this, please.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:25 am to UGATiger26
quote:Yeah letting a bunch of random people and some with bias pick who gets to play for the NC now is different than the voters then.
Because college football has a much more clear-cut way of deciding national champions now than it did back in 1934.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:26 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:To the team they beat no less.
Bonus: Bama had a loss against their schedule.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:27 am to coachcrisp
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It'll make the Ole Miss folks feel better about theirs
This sounds really aggy.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:29 am to Damone
But let's be real, Auburn didn't get up for that game. Had they shown up they would've beat the brakes off UCF.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:31 am to Damone
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They have a better claim to the championship than either Bama or UGA.
GTFO with that nonsense. You think the UCF defense could have stood up to any of the 4 playoff teams? UGA would run the frick all over UCF like we did to Auburn in part 2 and against Oklahoma in the 2nd half...you are so full of shite.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:34 am to GetmorewithLes
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I agree
One thing that would make it interesting is if UCF could get a Dr. Pepper competitor to sponsor a trophy
Dr. Publix...
If they can swing it, could go with RC Cola/Diet Rite?
Alternatively, they could buck the trend and go with a high end "fancy" soda company like Jones Cola, Red Rock, etc.
If no takers, I bet the SodaStream organization might be interested in this... Self Claimed Title brought to you by the Self Made Soda company...
Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:35 am to Box Geauxrilla
Alabama got in the playoff with a weak schedule. UCF did not, despite having won two championships on the field and not losing a game.
And that was before they beat Auburn...
And that was before they beat Auburn...
Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:35 am to fibonaccisquared
Bud Light could give them the Dilly Dilly championship trophy
Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:41 am to remaster916
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UCF will not finish number 1 in any poll. All of Bama's national championship were from a poll recognized by the NCAA.
Peter Wolfe is a recognized national championship selector by the NCAA. Guess who he has at #1?
Peter Wolfe Rankings
Don't believe me? Read the rules here.
This post was edited on 1/4/18 at 11:09 am
Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:47 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Alabama got in the playoff with a weak schedule. UCF did not
LINK
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NCAA College Football Strength of Schedule Rankings & Ratings
1 Auburn (10-4)
2 Oklahoma (12-2)
3 Ohio State (12-2)
4 Clemson (12-2)
5 Penn State (11-2)
6 Alabama (12-1)
....
53 Arkansas (4-8)
54 Central FL (13-0)
55 Missouri (7-6)
Can't believe I'm actually defending Alabama
Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:47 am to Pickle_Weasel
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Peter Wolfe is a recognized national championship selector by the NCAA. Guess who he has at #1?
I don't know how his rankings work, but I notice that his current rankings do not take into account the playoff and bowl games thus far.
If Alabama wins, his rankings will have to account for wins over his current #2 and #3 teams. If UGA wins, it will have to account for wins over his current #4 and #6 teams.
Something tells me that those wins would carry more weight than one win over his current #9 team.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:49 am to UGATiger26
Just ignore the loss count though
Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:51 am to CNB
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Just ignore the loss count though
Not my ranking. Just guessing how it works.
Would be a pretty useless ranking if it doesn't heavily take into account the quality of teams that a team beat.
He also doesn't seem to like one of UCF's best wins (USF) who he has at #33, when the AP had them at 23. And it looks like his rankings will love UGA's win over ND, which it currently has at #11 (I imagine that will go up with their win over #20 LSU).
This post was edited on 1/4/18 at 10:56 am
Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:52 am to Box Geauxrilla
Jesus. Did you just link the first thing you saw on Google?
Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:53 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Jesus. Did you just link the first thing you saw on Google?
Sorry, still putting together my thesis.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:54 am to Box Geauxrilla
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Sorry, still putting together my thesis.
Well, if you're going to use subjective polling as evidence, you could at least use a reputable source.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:55 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Are you saying they wouldn't get in the playoff? Alabama did, and their schedule wasn't that far off from UCF's.
Bonus: Bama had a loss against their schedule.
Siri... define intellectual dishonesty...
Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:56 am to UGATiger26
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I don't know how his rankings work, but I notice that his current rankings do not take into account the playoff and bowl games thus far.
If Alabama wins, his rankings will have to account for wins over his current #2 and #3 teams. If UGA wins, it will have to account for wins over his current #4 and #6 teams.
Something tells me that those wins would carry more weight than one win over his current #9 team.
Yeah, I'm not sure if UCF will remain in the #1 position if Alabama can beat Georgia. I think if Georgia beats Alabama, then that'll give them enough points to overtake UCF. I just think it's funny that for all of the laughing being done at UCF, that they could potentially have a legitimate claim for a National Championship, as recognized under NCAA rules.
Reading about Peter Wolfe's rankings, he says the following:
The method we use is called a maximum likelihood estimate. In it, each team i is assigned a rating value pi that is used in predicting the expected result between it and its opponent j, with the likelihood of i beating j given by:
pi / (pi + pj)
The probability P of all the results happening as they actually did is simply the product of multiplying together all the individual probabilities derived from each game. The rating values are chosen in such a way that the number P is as large as possible. This is often called a Bradley-Terry model, and is described in papers listed at Wilson's site (see Bradley and Terry 1952, Ford 1957, Elo 1986, Keener 1993).
This post was edited on 1/4/18 at 10:57 am
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