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re: SIAP Athlons top 50 QB's of the BCS era
Posted on 3/26/13 at 8:00 am to VermilionTiger
Posted on 3/26/13 at 8:00 am to VermilionTiger
Trolololol
Posted on 3/26/13 at 8:02 am to DWag215
Cam Netwon not only won the Heisman, SEC Championship, National Championship, undefeated season....but did it all on his own back. That was a complete rebuilding year for them. Manziel did not even win the SEC West and had 2 all-american tackles to protect him. If Manziel can repeat what he did last year or lead his team to the SECCG, I would agree to put Manziel where he is on the list.
Posted on 3/26/13 at 8:04 am to TT9
Typical retort from you, jack arse.
Now you're probably waiting for me to state my facts, you do another " ", I state more, then you said I got trolled
You're not worth my team
Now you're probably waiting for me to state my facts, you do another " ", I state more, then you said I got trolled
You're not worth my team
Posted on 3/26/13 at 8:04 am to IT_Dawg
Auburn had a solid o-line too.
Posted on 3/26/13 at 8:06 am to TT9
Auburn had 3 first round caliber linemen, including 2 tackles?
Posted on 3/26/13 at 8:11 am to VermilionTiger
No need too, we all know you're a dumbass if you truly believe that.
Posted on 3/26/13 at 8:16 am to IT_Dawg
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Cam Netwon not only won the Heisman, SEC Championship, National Championship, undefeated season....but did it all on his own back. That was a complete rebuilding year for them.
No it wasn't. They had ~20 seniors including a bunch of returning starters. Everyone knew going into 2010 that it was a 1 year window for Auburn because of personnel and schedule. 2011 was the rebuilding year
Posted on 3/26/13 at 8:16 am to TT9
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Auburn had a solid o-line too.
I am confused. Auburn had 1 OL drafted in the 7th round, the 10th pick from the bottom in 2011, and a late 4th rounder in 2012.....doesn't sound like a "solid" o-line to me.....
Posted on 3/26/13 at 8:17 am to IT_Dawg
Oh, so they have to get drafted to be labeled solid in college?
Posted on 3/26/13 at 8:18 am to WestCoastAg
Dont know how anyone can say Tebow isnt #1
should be
1. Tebow
2. VY
3. Cam
also AJ top 5? RG3 and Luck top 10? really?
also that houston qb with 20k yards should get top 10 for just stats alone
should be
1. Tebow
2. VY
3. Cam
also AJ top 5? RG3 and Luck top 10? really?
also that houston qb with 20k yards should get top 10 for just stats alone
Posted on 3/26/13 at 8:56 am to IT_Dawg
So just to be clear--you're holding a short tenured career against Manziel, but not Cam.
Manziel also won a Heisman and surpassed Cam in the record books. He lost two games by a combined 8 points. He had a kicker hit just 59% for the year. He ate up more yardage than any SEC QB ever--and did it at a younger age than his counterparts.
He had two great tackles, yes. But no one pass rushes JFF. Ask LSU--they beat us with containment. Having elite bookends would lend more credence to your point if they were needed like they are for a Tyler Wilson or AJ. JFF's at his best when the shite hits in the fan.
But whether JFF belongs above Cam isn't the point; I'm not even arguing that. There's just no way there are 35 better QBs than JFF the last ~15 years.
Manziel also won a Heisman and surpassed Cam in the record books. He lost two games by a combined 8 points. He had a kicker hit just 59% for the year. He ate up more yardage than any SEC QB ever--and did it at a younger age than his counterparts.
He had two great tackles, yes. But no one pass rushes JFF. Ask LSU--they beat us with containment. Having elite bookends would lend more credence to your point if they were needed like they are for a Tyler Wilson or AJ. JFF's at his best when the shite hits in the fan.
But whether JFF belongs above Cam isn't the point; I'm not even arguing that. There's just no way there are 35 better QBs than JFF the last ~15 years.
This post was edited on 3/26/13 at 8:58 am
Posted on 3/26/13 at 8:58 am to WestCoastAg
No Jordan Jefferson? List is complete shite
Posted on 3/26/13 at 8:59 am to fareplay
quote:no doubt, has two bcs titles to his name and great performances in both games.
AJ top 5?
Posted on 3/26/13 at 9:01 am to DWag215
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Tebow had superb defenses.
TAMU's 2012 defense ranked similarly to 2010 AU--giving up more yards and slightly less points.
Comparable offenses though.
Posted on 3/26/13 at 9:07 am to USMC Gators
Yes, but the great defenses undoubtedly contributed to the titles Tebow won.
And if we're holding Manziel's empty championship case against him, it's not unfair to dig into why others' are filled.
And if we're holding Manziel's empty championship case against him, it's not unfair to dig into why others' are filled.
This post was edited on 3/26/13 at 9:08 am
Posted on 3/26/13 at 9:18 am to DWag215
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Yes, but the great defenses undoubtedly contributed to the titles Tebow won.
And if we're holding Manziel's empty championship case against him, it's not unfair to dig into why others' are filled.
And let's be honest... Johnny is far better than Tebow.
Posted on 3/26/13 at 9:39 am to WestCoastAg
If one of the criteria for this list is longevity, I don't think you're going to see much bitching out of us. Who cares?
Posted on 3/26/13 at 9:58 am to omrebelfan20
are you stupid? It says BCS era.....where does it say this INCLUDES NFL STATS/WINS/AWARDS?? serious question.
Posted on 3/26/13 at 10:00 am to TeLeFaWx
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Johnny is far better than Tebow.
Not sure about how my Tebow padded stats, but Manziel was in the 4th quarter up 34 throwing for 90+ yards and a rushing TDs....P.A.D dem stats!
Again, JFF is a good QB, much better than people anticipated. If he can perform with any consistency next season, I will certainly put him among the top 20 QBs of the last 15 years
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