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re: Should we have playoffs or bowl games?
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:10 pm to UsingUpAllTheLetters
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:10 pm to UsingUpAllTheLetters
4 teams is enough. Expanding the playoffs will make the regular season mean less. I like college ball because it's more about your body of work than who can get hot the last few games of the season
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:11 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
I never liked the playoffs and still don't.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 10:22 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
Tell Saban to suck on a LEMON!
Posted on 5/14/15 at 10:26 pm to JesusQuintana
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I never liked the playoffs and still don't.
Seriously you liked the old system more which if we had used this year would have had 2 teams in the NC that lost in the quarters of the playoffs
Posted on 5/14/15 at 10:27 pm to allin2010
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Saban does not like the four team playoffs. Shocking. He knows the media hype will not give Bama match ups like games against an overrated ND or mulligan games.
Good lord. It's like watching illiteracy bloom in motion-capture.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 10:27 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
I kind of like the idea of an extended playoff
I always kind of thought it'd be cool if all of the Conference Champions were in the playoff and seeded according to their AP rank or something.
So say the 2015 MAC Champion (Ball St) is ranked #55 they would play against, I dunno, The 2015 ACC Champ (Clemson) who is ranked like, 7th.
Lets say the 2015 AAC Champ (Tulsa) is ranked lower than Ball St, but the 2015 SEC Champ (Vanderbilt) is ranked #1, higher than Clemson.
It would be Tulsa v Vanderbilt in like, the Peach bowl
And Clemson v Ball State in like, the Cotton bowl
That's how it'd work in my head. I'm sure I'm wrong on innumerable amounts of levels, but I think that'd be cool.
Maybe the 2nd Place Overall in each conference could play too, but then ties might get confusing.
Oh, and for this the Big XII would have to have a conference championship game. TCU and Baylor vs 1 opponent would be scary as hell.
I always kind of thought it'd be cool if all of the Conference Champions were in the playoff and seeded according to their AP rank or something.
So say the 2015 MAC Champion (Ball St) is ranked #55 they would play against, I dunno, The 2015 ACC Champ (Clemson) who is ranked like, 7th.
Lets say the 2015 AAC Champ (Tulsa) is ranked lower than Ball St, but the 2015 SEC Champ (Vanderbilt) is ranked #1, higher than Clemson.
It would be Tulsa v Vanderbilt in like, the Peach bowl
And Clemson v Ball State in like, the Cotton bowl
That's how it'd work in my head. I'm sure I'm wrong on innumerable amounts of levels, but I think that'd be cool.
Maybe the 2nd Place Overall in each conference could play too, but then ties might get confusing.
Oh, and for this the Big XII would have to have a conference championship game. TCU and Baylor vs 1 opponent would be scary as hell.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 10:32 pm to LSUsuperfresh
Funny how everyone keeps saying Saban complained about the playoffs... which he never did. He just wants the people in charge to pick one and stick with it.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 10:36 pm to allin2010
I just noticed that even though your name is "allin2010" your join date was in August 2011.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 10:43 pm to UsingUpAllTheLetters
8 Team playoff would be better. Reduce the reg season to 11 games.
Leave whatever Bowl games - hell - have a Next 8 tournament for all I care (like the NIT). I do believe the playoff games would be better if they were at home stadiums. Only have the NC game at a neutral site. Top seed gets home field. That would ensure ALL the games counted. Money wouldn't be much different. Have the school host a bunch of pre game festivities etc. Any playoff expansion - you can't expect fans to travel to three away games -$$$
Leave whatever Bowl games - hell - have a Next 8 tournament for all I care (like the NIT). I do believe the playoff games would be better if they were at home stadiums. Only have the NC game at a neutral site. Top seed gets home field. That would ensure ALL the games counted. Money wouldn't be much different. Have the school host a bunch of pre game festivities etc. Any playoff expansion - you can't expect fans to travel to three away games -$$$
Posted on 5/14/15 at 11:11 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
Both. Have an 8-team playoff system that gets higher seeds to host playoff games at their home stadium. Could you imagine the atmosphere at say Bryant-Denny, or Death Valley, or Death Valley if someone like USC, Oklahoma, or Ohio State came to town for a playoff game?
Posted on 5/15/15 at 7:47 am to geauxnavybeatbama
Go back to 25 bowls.
Playoff could be included in 3 of the bowls.
Finish season on January 1.
Playoff could be included in 3 of the bowls.
Finish season on January 1.
Posted on 5/15/15 at 8:08 am to geauxnavybeatbama
I've been harping the entire time I've known about this forum that the playoff is very bad for Alabama. reading this comment from Saban it feels like he knows he simply isn't going to be able to win any more titles without having to play a really good hunh/spread team. I respect Saban's accomplishments as a coach and recruiter, but his total lack of awareness regarding how unobjective his opinions appear is obnoxious.
last year the pathetic attempt to hamstring the HUNH with the vapid safety argument, and now this. This isn't as bad obviously, because he isn't trying to actually enact change. but c'mon man. Everyone can look back on last year's playoff and see under the BCS the championship would have been #1 FSU vs #2 Alabama, and its very difficult to think Alabama would have failed to destroy FSU if that matchup had occurred. FSU was a complete fraud all of last year.
The bowls have been devalued by the BOWLS, not the freaking playoff. If anything the playoff has returned some of the beauty of the bowl system, by better differentiating the quality bowls from the bowls that don't really need to exist.
last year the pathetic attempt to hamstring the HUNH with the vapid safety argument, and now this. This isn't as bad obviously, because he isn't trying to actually enact change. but c'mon man. Everyone can look back on last year's playoff and see under the BCS the championship would have been #1 FSU vs #2 Alabama, and its very difficult to think Alabama would have failed to destroy FSU if that matchup had occurred. FSU was a complete fraud all of last year.
The bowls have been devalued by the BOWLS, not the freaking playoff. If anything the playoff has returned some of the beauty of the bowl system, by better differentiating the quality bowls from the bowls that don't really need to exist.
Posted on 5/15/15 at 8:30 am to BearBait09
Expand the playoffs to 6 or 8 teams.
Make a winning record necessary for eligibility for a bowl game.
Done.
Make a winning record necessary for eligibility for a bowl game.
Done.
Posted on 5/15/15 at 8:51 am to geauxnavybeatbama
Ive said since the BCS was around to either have bowl games or a playoff. Before the BCS you had the conference tie-ins. ALl the younguns on here wont know what I'm talking about here but it was so exciting on Jan 1.
Rose- Big 10 vs PAC 10
Sugar- SEC champ vs at large
Orange- Big 8 champ vs at large
Cotton- SWC champ vs at large
all of these had signifigance. You could be number 4 on Jan 1 and if things fell right you could end u winning the title.
Miami 1983- came in the day #4. # 2 Texas lost cotton, # 1 Nebraska was defeated by Miami and #3 Auburn squeaked by Michigan. This vaulted the canes to #1
OU 1985- #3 OU defeated # 1 Penn State in Orange but won because Tenn defeated # 2 Miami in Sugar.
Point being more than one game had relevance. Now its one game. Yea, folks watch the Cotton, Gator, etc but only because its football. Other than the 4 teams in the playoff, these games mean absolutely nothing unless you are a fan of those teams. I loved the old days of Jan 1 when you were flipping back and forth between the Orange and Sugar, Rose and Orange earlier because possibly 8 or 9 teams could still win the title.
Have a true 16 team playoff or lets go back to the pre BCS days when more than a couple bowl games mattered.
Rose- Big 10 vs PAC 10
Sugar- SEC champ vs at large
Orange- Big 8 champ vs at large
Cotton- SWC champ vs at large
all of these had signifigance. You could be number 4 on Jan 1 and if things fell right you could end u winning the title.
Miami 1983- came in the day #4. # 2 Texas lost cotton, # 1 Nebraska was defeated by Miami and #3 Auburn squeaked by Michigan. This vaulted the canes to #1
OU 1985- #3 OU defeated # 1 Penn State in Orange but won because Tenn defeated # 2 Miami in Sugar.
Point being more than one game had relevance. Now its one game. Yea, folks watch the Cotton, Gator, etc but only because its football. Other than the 4 teams in the playoff, these games mean absolutely nothing unless you are a fan of those teams. I loved the old days of Jan 1 when you were flipping back and forth between the Orange and Sugar, Rose and Orange earlier because possibly 8 or 9 teams could still win the title.
Have a true 16 team playoff or lets go back to the pre BCS days when more than a couple bowl games mattered.
Posted on 5/15/15 at 9:00 am to AgCoug
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The number of bowls is fine with me. It just means I get to watch more football. Yeah, most of the matchups are crap, but even bad football is better than no football.
Posted on 5/16/15 at 1:15 pm to RT1941
False dilemma, you can clearly have both, like they do now.
What a bunch of 6-6 and 7-5 teams do is completely irrelevant, who cares if they wanna play some garbage bowl game for an $4.99 trophy.
What a bunch of 6-6 and 7-5 teams do is completely irrelevant, who cares if they wanna play some garbage bowl game for an $4.99 trophy.
Posted on 5/16/15 at 1:36 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
All of them. The more college football the better.
Posted on 5/16/15 at 1:41 pm to IAmReality
To me one of the biggest issues is the distance to these bowl games for 6-6 or 7-5 teams. Do you really expect to get 30K fans from Corvallis Oregon to Tampa for a game? What if the game was in Portland instead against an 8-4 or 9-3 Mountain West team.
Only make the top 10 or so bowl games "destination" type games and keep the others somewhat regional
Only make the top 10 or so bowl games "destination" type games and keep the others somewhat regional
Posted on 5/16/15 at 2:26 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
YES
Posted on 5/16/15 at 2:36 pm to allin2010
Everybody in the country loves the playoffs except for candy arse Saban.
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