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re: Should South Carolina change their "gamecock" name to something

Posted on 8/14/13 at 11:02 am to
Posted by SirCocky
Member since Jun 2013
140 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 11:02 am to
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Because a dog bred to assist in bringing down bulls in ancient Rome is the same as a chicken with a razor cuffed to its leg.


Bulldogs got their name from the blood sport of bull baiting, where multiple dogs were sent to attack a tethered or confined bull. Bull-baiting was popular in England from the 1500s to 1835 when it was finally outlawed. I'm not sure where you got that ancient Rome and "assisting" nonsense, unless you are thinking about ancient Molossers, which were used in similar baiting blood sports.

Both mascots have a past history in blood sports, and both still show some of that history in their imagery. For example, USC's logo has spurs, UGA's bulldog logo has a spiked collar, these were originally used to deter other dogs/animals from biting the dogs neck in a fight.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19677 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 11:18 am to
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Because a dog bred to assist in bringing down bulls in ancient Rome is the same as a chicken with a razor cuffed to its leg. Bulldogs got their name from the blood sport of bull baiting, where multiple dogs were sent to attack a tethered or confined bull. Bull-baiting was popular in England from the 1500s to 1835 when it was finally outlawed. I'm not sure where you got that ancient Rome and "assisting" nonsense, unless you are thinking about ancient Molossers, which were used in similar baiting blood sports. Both mascots have a past history in blood sports, and both still show some of that history in their imagery. For example, USC's logo has spurs, UGA's bulldog logo has a spiked collar, these were originally used to deter other dogs/animals from biting the dogs neck in a fight.


i believe he may have been referring to the pugnaces britanniae, which was a large breed in ancient Britain (war and hunting dog) that was descended from asiatic mastiffs. They were indeed imported into rome and used in the Colosseum to fight bears, tigers, bulls, gladiators, etc... but they were not bred for that purpose. They were considered more formidable than the greek Molossus. The closest living descendent dog is probably the english mastiff, although the pugnaces britanniae would have been more athletic and less docile. This dog probably contributed some dna to the original bulldogs, now referred to as the olde english bulldog to differentiate from the modern dog. they were indeed specifically bred for the blood sport of bull baiting (although the bull was not killed, the dogs often were). Those bulldogs died out in england after blood sports were banned in 1835. Some were taken to the US by immigrants and put to work as farm dogs. The modern english bulldog is a cross between the original bulldog and a pug. The various types of pitbulls are the result of crossing the old bulldogs with terriers to add agility, quickness, and gameness.
This post was edited on 8/14/13 at 11:25 am
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
25850 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 11:42 am to
A UGA fan talking about something immoral? I'm sorry how many UGA's have died in the last few years due to disgusting inbreeding?
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
15737 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 11:51 am to
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ugasickem



Someone is jealous that we don't share a nickname with 15 other D1 teams, including another team in the conference.



If you're going to complain about mascots and logos, at least choose this one
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
13436 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 11:54 am to
How the the South Carolina Rebels?
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46442 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 11:59 am to
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narddogg81

quote:

pugnaces britanniae


This guy knows what I'm referring to
Posted by Loathor
Columbia, SC
Member since Jun 2012
2369 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 12:29 pm to
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Georgia, named after King George, English Bulldog, stout, known for their ferocity in dire situations.


No wonder we don't like you oppressive, imperialist assholes... Viva la Revolution!!
Posted by ugasickem
Allatoona
Member since Nov 2010
10762 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 9:14 am to
See, this is why they should change their name. From the OT

As long as South Carolina keeps their nickname of 'gamecocks' this sort of thing will continue to happen. Actively promoting illegal activity.
Posted by TiptonInSC
Aiken, SC
Member since Dec 2012
18908 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 9:30 am to
GFY. UGA can get Mike Vick to be Uga IX's baby sitter.

This post was edited on 8/15/13 at 9:38 am
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