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re: Should South Carolina change their "gamecock" name to something

Posted on 8/14/13 at 8:59 am to
Posted by atlgamecockman
Washington, DC
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Posted on 8/14/13 at 8:59 am to
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LSU should change bec they are named after a COnfederate group of soldiers...IM OFFENDED!!


I wonder what percentage of SEC mascots were named after divisions or brigades or whathaveyou of the Confederate Army. Carolina's is from the Revolutionary war I believe.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 8/14/13 at 9:05 am to
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Carolina's is from the Revolutionary war I believe.


Really?


The nickname for the Auburn Tigers comes from a verse in a 1770 poem titled, "The Deserted Village," which was penned by Oliver Goldsmith. A passage reads, "where crouching tigers wait their hapless prey." The poem also mentions that "Sweet Auburn" is the "loveliest village of the plain."


Posted by flyAU
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Posted on 8/14/13 at 9:05 am to
One of the stories about "War Eagle" is about a confederate soldier finding an eagle on the battlefield etc.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46442 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 9:06 am to
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They wanted to seem tougher so they changed to bulldogs from goats.

Or because our school was founded by Yale graduates, the original North Campus is modeled after buildings at Yale, and our first game in Sanford Stadium was against Yale.

Your Gamecock symbol has spurs, your pants have a spur pattern on the leg, and your rooster mascot is named Sir Big Spur, thereby completing the logical reasoning behind the "Gamecock in reference to cockfighting" belief. Seriously, who the frick picks a chicken as a mascot without the allusion to cockfighting? That's just a lame arse mascot.

But if you don't want to take my word for it...

quote:

A rooster trained for cockfighting.


Gamecock definition
Posted by atlgamecockman
Washington, DC
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 8/14/13 at 9:12 am to
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chicken as a mascot without the allusion to cockfighting?


There was the allusion back when they were named that because the newspapers said some revolutionary war captain and his men fought 'like fighting gamecocks'.

Also, gamecocks will fight til death, which I find particularly admirable.... arse.

Still... GOATS.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 8/14/13 at 9:25 am to
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Also, gamecocks will fight til death, which I find particularly admirable.... arse.


Nothing gets me as inspired as two starved, territorial male animals boxed into a small space and made to fight until dead

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Still... GOATS.

If you really want me to address it, I think we had the goat as a mascot in the early 1900s for one or two games because a farmer or frat brother brought it to a game and - since we didn't have a symbol to represent the university's atheltic interests at that point - tt was just a convenient association. The goat's last game (the one we lost) saw the goat barbecued later that night. So... If you want to harp on a century old animal that happened to show up to a game or two, then I guess it's within your right?
Posted by ugasickem
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Posted on 8/14/13 at 9:27 am to
Lot of ruffled feathers up in here!
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 8/14/13 at 9:28 am to
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Nothing gets me as inspired as two starved, territorial male animals boxed into a small space and made to fight until dead


Like a bull and bulldog?
Posted by atlgamecockman
Washington, DC
Member since Dec 2012
3822 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 9:29 am to
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Like a bull and bulldog


This. Get out of here with your high and mighty shite leghumpers.
Posted by bigDgator
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 8/14/13 at 9:35 am to
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 8/14/13 at 9:38 am to
Because a dog bred to assist in bringing down bulls in ancient Rome is the same as a chicken with a razor cuffed to its leg.

I couldn't give any less of a shite that Carolina uses a Gamecock as it's mascot. I'm just amused by the USCe denial over what a Gamecock is and represents
This post was edited on 8/14/13 at 9:39 am
Posted by CockHolliday
Columbia, SC
Member since Dec 2012
4515 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 9:42 am to
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Sorry for partying, CockGoblin


No problem, it was your own campus your fans trashed And I hate to break it to you, but we crashed that party.
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
5879 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 9:43 am to
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I couldn't give any less of a shite that Carolina uses a Gamecock as it's mascot. I'm just amused by the USCe denial over what a Gamecock is and represents


Because anyone who gives a frick about USC knows that we weren't named after the animal, we were named after a general in the Revolutionary War - Thomas "The Fighting Gamecock" Sumter. The Revolution was also where the Palmetto and Crescent come from. Now, obviously, we use the animal as the physical manifestation, but, just like LSU's Tigers, the name has a deeper meaning.

And BTW, it's not "as it's mascot." It's "its mascot."

Good thing it's not a rivalry. If it were, this shite would get outta hand.
This post was edited on 8/14/13 at 9:45 am
Posted by atlgamecockman
Washington, DC
Member since Dec 2012
3822 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 9:45 am to
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Gamecock is and represents


Well in USC's case, a Gamecock is a football player and represents the fighting spirit of some revolutionary war fighters. Having an original mascot is cool.

But I guess copying Yale is cool too.
Posted by ConwayGamecock
South Carolina
Member since Jan 2012
9121 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 9:57 am to
I agree....we should change our name from the Gamecocks to the Monstrouscocks.....and then patent it so that everyone has to say "the University of South Carolina Monstrouscocks" whenever they refer to our teams. Or at the very least, force UGA fans to have to say it...


Posted by ThaKaptin
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/14/13 at 9:59 am to
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Nothing gets me as inspired as two starved, territorial male animals boxed into a small space and made to fight until dead


It's funny, because you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. First off, those roosters are far from starved. They are treated like royalty at all of the farms I have visited. The good ones are even given 2 and 3 females to pillage as the see fit 24 hours a day.

But on the actual subject of the thread, gamecocks are a breed of chicken with different sub-breeds under them such as Grays, Hatch, Round Heads, Kelso's, Black Butchers, etc etc etc.. I don't give a frick what your "definition" that you found says. Many people like these chickens for reasons that are completely irrelevant to cockfighting. They are great chickens for people that live in areas heavily populated with predators, such as coyotes, raccoons, or foxes, because they roost in trees instead of on the ground at night and are also much better at flying and escaping these predators than normal chickens.

And lets just completely ignore the fact that they are MUCH prettier chickens than normal breeds with their vibrant color contrasts and tall slender builds.
Posted by atlgamecockman
Washington, DC
Member since Dec 2012
3822 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 9:59 am to
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Or at the very least, force UGA fans to have to say it...


I reckon this is a good idea. I mean they have been taking our Monstrouscocks for 3 years now....

:notarivalry:
This post was edited on 8/14/13 at 10:00 am
Posted by careyhhi
Charleston, SC
Member since Dec 2012
59 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 10:05 am to
The OP must want all teams to have arbitrary generic mascots that appear everywhere instead of unique ones that have historical ties to the team's state.
Posted by atlgamecockman
Washington, DC
Member since Dec 2012
3822 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 10:06 am to
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ThaKaptin


Thank you for your relevant and well informed post.
Posted by ThaKaptin
The Sultan of Swag
Member since Nov 2010
21741 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 10:08 am to
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