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re: Sensational Aggie Fan Breakdown of 2012 Bama/A&M Game

Posted on 7/10/13 at 1:51 pm to
Posted by thatdude1985
Oxford, AL
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 7/10/13 at 1:51 pm to
ummm what? Oregon doesn't have an explosive pass attack....
Posted by Gardevoir
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/10/13 at 1:52 pm to
First, I'm an Alabama fan, and I've never claimed to be diehard. Just because I don't stick behind my team 24/7 and lean towards bias, doesn't mean I 'm against them either.
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Texas A&M played a better game than Alabama and won. That's all that really matters about that game.

That ended up being the biggest game and moment of the season for Texas A&M so I can see why someone would put that much time into talking about it, but Alabama had at least three games that were bigger and won some championships so forgive us if it just doesn't seem as big a deal to us.

at least 3? Care to list them? The LSU and Georgia games should have been double digit victories. The national championship game was a joke. Notre Dame backed into the #1 ranking, struggled against what should have been cupcakes, and was a cupcake for Alabama. They weren't tough at all. Alabama vs Oregon, Texas A&M, or Stanford would have been much better. Notre Dame was WAY overmatched and overrated so please don't try and make that game out to be more than it was. Ole Miss was tougher.
Posted by tigafan89
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/10/13 at 1:54 pm to
Nice analysis - But TAMU will only get respect on their time in the SEC. 11-2 was good for the first year. But, you have to repeat that kind of performance. Talk to me when you are 22-4 in the SEC.
Posted by Gardevoir
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/10/13 at 1:59 pm to
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Nice analysis - But TAMU will only get respect on their time in the SEC. 11-2 was good for the first year. But, you have to repeat that kind of performance. Talk to me when you are 22-4 in the SEC.

Agreed; however, South Carolina is 22-4 the past two seasons. How much do you respect them? Are they overrated, underrated, or rated just right?
Posted by tigafan89
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/10/13 at 2:01 pm to
I have huge respect for South Carolina. They are a great team with a great coach.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 7/10/13 at 2:03 pm to
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but Alabama had at least three games that were bigger


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at least 3? Care to list them? The LSU and Georgia games should have been double digit victories. The national championship game was a joke. Notre Dame backed into the #1 ranking, struggled against what should have been cupcakes, and was a cupcake for Alabama. They weren't tough at all. Alabama vs Oregon, Texas A&M, or Stanford would have been much better. Notre Dame was WAY overmatched and overrated so please don't try and make that game out to be more than it was. Ole Miss was tougher.


You seem to be confused (or just wanted to rant about Alabama playing a weak opponent in the BCSCG). I didn't say tougher games, I said bigger games. 100 times out of 100 the BCSCG and the SECCG are bigger than the Texas A&M game. Sorry if you don't see that. The LSU game was a bigger game given the stakes as well. That ended up being for the SEC West title. My point is I can see why Texas A&M fans would put so much stock into that game - it was kind of the crowning achievement for their season and Manziel's heisman campaign. On the other hand, it was another game for Alabama on the way to an SEC championship and BCS championship.
Posted by Gardevoir
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/10/13 at 2:12 pm to
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ummm what? Oregon doesn't have an explosive pass attack...

They don't, but it still would have been a better game. Oregon had a decent defense last season. Oregon offense > Notre Dame offense. Just think about it, it would have been Chip Kelly's last game. I think he would've had them ready to go. It was the desired match, and an Alabama victory would put some arguments to rest.

Stanford doesn't have an explosive passing attack either, but I trust that their defense and first BCSNCG appearance would help make it a very competitive game.

Texas A&M already proved they could pass the ball on and hang with Alabama. This game is very risky.

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I have huge respect for South Carolina. They are a great team with a great coach.

I respect the LSU program, my LSU neighbors, and the online fanbase as a whole. Good luck this season.
Posted by thatdude1985
Oxford, AL
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 7/10/13 at 2:14 pm to
It wouldn't have taken much to be a better game than the ND one....Teams change btw...these aren't even close to the same teams as last year....every game is different.
This post was edited on 7/10/13 at 2:16 pm
Posted by Gardevoir
Member since Jun 2013
1880 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 2:15 pm to
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You seem to be confused (or just wanted to rant about Alabama playing a weak opponent in the BCSCG). I didn't say tougher games, I said bigger games. 100 times out of 100 the BCSCG and the SECCG are bigger than the Texas A&M game. Sorry if you don't see that. The LSU game was a bigger game given the stakes as well. That ended up being for the SEC West title. My point is I can see why Texas A&M fans would put so much stock into that game - it was kind of the crowning achievement for their season and Manziel's heisman campaign. On the other hand, it was another game for Alabama on the way to an SEC championship and BCS championship.


Thanks, I understand. I gave this post an upvote.
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 7/10/13 at 2:17 pm to
And, I suppose it will just be "another game" for Bama in September too?

C'mon, dude. That was the one loss of the season. Don't sit there and act like that game was insignificant. Why the frick is Saban decorating the locker room with Aggie gear?

Yes, the SECCG was bigger in terms of viewership and BCS implications in the end, but at the time, the A&M/Bama game made a HUGE difference in a lot of things, from the Heisman race, to who would be selected as one of BCS title game participants.

The excuses are as tired and ridiculous as the ones A&M fans throw out for the LSU loss. It's bullshite. A&M played a better game. That's the reason for the W, and the only reason.
Posted by Gardevoir
Member since Jun 2013
1880 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 2:20 pm to
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And, I suppose it will just be "another game" for Bama in September too?

C'mon, dude. That was the one loss of the season. Don't sit there and act like that game was insignificant. Why the frick is Saban decorating the locker room with Aggie gear?

Yes, the SECCG was bigger in terms of viewership and BCS implications in the end, but at the time, the A&M/Bama game made a HUGE difference in a lot of things, from the Heisman race, to who would be selected as one of BCS title game participants.

The excuses are as tired and ridiculous as the ones A&M fans throw out for the LSU loss. It's bullshite. A&M played a better game. That's the reason for the W, and the only reason.


In retrospect, even if y'all had lost, I'd prefer Johnny or Collin win the Heisman. Heisman selection was weaker last year. Teo's girlfriend didn't exist and off-the-field hardships shouldn't play that big of a role in Heisman voting.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
24901 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 2:22 pm to
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The excuses are as tired and ridiculous as the ones A&M fans throw out for the LSU loss. It's bullshite. A&M played a better game. That's the reason for the W, and the only reason.


Yes, I said that. Thanks for agreeing with me.

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And, I suppose it will just be "another game" for Bama in September too?

C'mon, dude. That was the one loss of the season. Don't sit there and act like that game was insignificant. Why the frick is Saban decorating the locker room with Aggie gear?

Yes, the SECCG was bigger in terms of viewership and BCS implications in the end, but at the time, the A&M/Bama game made a HUGE difference in a lot of things, from the Heisman race, to who would be selected as one of BCS title game participants.


I guarantee that if and when Texas A&M ever plays in the SECCG or BCSCG (or upcoming playoff championship game) you will grasp the truth of what I am saying. The SECCG, the BCSCG, and the LSU game (decided the West) were simply bigger games for Alabama last year. It's really not debateable. I didn't say it was insignificant, but as far as significance for the two team's respective seasons, the significance for Bama pales in comparison to the significance for A&M. That's just the truth.
Posted by thatdude1985
Oxford, AL
Member since Oct 2011
27038 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 2:22 pm to
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Why the frick is Saban decorating the locker room with Aggie gear?


Link of said decorations?
Posted by Stonehog
Platinum Rewards Club
Member since Aug 2011
33330 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 2:23 pm to
Since A&M beat Bama that makes them king of the conference. It only takes one game.
Posted by Herman Frisco
Bon Secour
Member since Sep 2008
17266 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 2:25 pm to
Bigger--More important.
Two different meanings for each team.
And the championship still went thru LSU
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 2:26 pm to
Not only am I unrustled about that game today, I was never rustled about it when it happened. Had the West wrapped up, still playing for an SEC title at that point. Figured the pretenders ahead of us would lose, too. Congrats to aTm, though.
Posted by thatthang
Member since Jan 2012
6770 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 2:39 pm to
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And, I suppose it will just be "another game" for Bama in September too?

C'mon, dude. That was the one loss of the season. Don't sit there and act like that game was insignificant. Why the frick is Saban decorating the locker room with Aggie gear?

Yes, the SECCG was bigger in terms of viewership and BCS implications in the end, but at the time, the A&M/Bama game made a HUGE difference in a lot of things, from the Heisman race, to who would be selected as one of BCS title game participants.

The excuses are as tired and ridiculous as the ones A&M fans throw out for the LSU loss. It's bull shite. A&M played a better game. That's the reason for the W, and the only reason.



Yeah I really don't know what you're looking for from us. Sorry we didn't go suicidal after a game that in the end didn't affect the team's goals? This isn't like a backhanded stab at A&M where we pretend you are not worthy of our time. ND (who sucked of course), UGA, and LSU were all must win games and thus infinitely bigger games for Bama. A&M wasn't. No, we didn't know all that at the time, but let's not act like this was a game that was ever circled on any calendars in Tuscaloosa. That's not an excuse on performance, A&M won fair and square in a great game.

Now, this year is different. Everything is falling into place for this to be a huge one.
Posted by Spirit Of Aggieland
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
4607 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 2:40 pm to
It isn't about who had the better season. Alabama had the better season because they won the NCG. Zero Aggies are even arguing this. But if you look at the A&M/ Bama game, A&M outplayed Bama in that game.

A&M's Offense is strong. That was a known quantity all year.

But the A&M defense was especially sharp early, and the game plan was really smart. Neeley blew up the running plays, so Bama had to pass more frequently. And D Coord. Snyder baited McCarron into throwing one of the early int's, and that was huge in the momentum of the 1Q.

Bama made some big plays to rally. But in crunch time, it was first and goal from the 5. A&M's defense made the plays they had to to win the game.

Appears to be a weak troll attempt, IMO...
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 2:45 pm to
Fair enough. I was starting to get the impression that some thought the game was as significant as summertime 7 on 7 play. Outside of the LSU game, no other regular-season game was more important at the time or in retrospect. That's all I'm saying.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
24901 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 2:49 pm to
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Fair enough. I was starting to get the impression that some thought the game was as significant as summertime 7 on 7 play. Outside of the LSU game, no other regular-season game was more important at the time or in retrospect. That's all I'm saying.


Right. It was still a big game. Texas A&M was highly ranked and Alabama was still undefeated. This year will feel even bigger and may end up being the most important regular season game for both teams.
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