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re: Selection committee
Posted on 10/17/13 at 10:50 am to TheBuescherMan
Posted on 10/17/13 at 10:50 am to TheBuescherMan
In addition to releasing a consolidated ranking, I hope each committee member's ballot is released. We need to see if certain people are obviously being biased towards their own team or conference.
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Posted on 10/17/13 at 10:58 am to Bumpndnite
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Has anyone seen what criteria the Selection Committee will use next season
What I'm getting is that the BCS Playoff decision makers will not handcuff the committee into using some kind of system.
To me that is simply a way for the committee to justify anything that they do. One year they may lean on SOS. The next year they may lean on margin of victory. Then the year after that they may favor a mid major that is undefeated over a 1-loss SEC team simply because a mid major hasn't been to the title game in a while. To me this simply is bad for college football. Although I said that when they announced the 4 team playoff. Any playoff with less than 16 teams is a disservice to the sport IMO.
I can guarantee you we won't see 2 SEC teams in this thing for a while.....at least until enough people start howling which may or may not happen at least as it relates to the SEC.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 10:59 am to Porter Wagoner
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In addition to releasing a consolidated ranking, I hope each committee member's ballot is released.
I'm hoping so to but I'm not holding my breath for either of these.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 11:05 am to LSU316
I live is this fricking state, have for 35 years, and still don’t understand the paranoia and self-importance that infects some who are associated with LSU. Everyone is against them, everyone is trying to cheat them, everyone else in the entire country is clueless …
LSU fans MIGHT be ok if the freaking committee was composed of (1) Edwin Edwards, (2) Les Miles, (3) Billy “the printer” Cannon, (4) Paul Deitzel, (5) Shaq, (6) Dale Brown, (7) Mike the Tiger, (8) Honey boo-boo Badger, (9) Gen. William Tecumseh Sherman, and (10) Jerry Stoval.
But then if the committee decided that LSU didn’t meet the qualifications for the playoffs, regardless of the reason, I guarrentee that they would be attacked as traitors who were paid off by Bama (or somebody), and get booed and cursed by a chanting student body at games.
Re: Archie Manning -
I watched that amazing bio on ESPN. Archie is such an old Miss fan that he wouldn't intervene when Payton decided to go to Tennessee. If Archie and Ms. Rice cannot be on the committee because they are pre-disposed, I guess these other members of the committee are also not acceptable to some of my LSU friends….
Jeff Long: Current Arkansas AD
Barry Alvarez: Current Wisconsin AD
Lt. Gen. Michael C Gould: Current Superintendent of the United States Air Force Academy
Patrick Hayden: Current Southern California AD
Tom Jernstedt: NCAA Executive Vice President
Oliver Luck: Current West Virginia AD
Archie Manning:
Tom Osborne: ex longtime Nebraska coach
Dan Radakovich: Current Clemson AD. Former Georgia Tech AD
Condoleezza Rice
Michael Tranghese: Big East Conference commissioner
Steve Wieberg: USA Today sportswriter
Tyrone Willingham: Stanford / Notre Dame / Washington
LSU fans MIGHT be ok if the freaking committee was composed of (1) Edwin Edwards, (2) Les Miles, (3) Billy “the printer” Cannon, (4) Paul Deitzel, (5) Shaq, (6) Dale Brown, (7) Mike the Tiger, (8) Honey boo-boo Badger, (9) Gen. William Tecumseh Sherman, and (10) Jerry Stoval.
But then if the committee decided that LSU didn’t meet the qualifications for the playoffs, regardless of the reason, I guarrentee that they would be attacked as traitors who were paid off by Bama (or somebody), and get booed and cursed by a chanting student body at games.
Re: Archie Manning -
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He may come across as the father of college football to many, but to many he is a died in the wool black bear fan first.
I watched that amazing bio on ESPN. Archie is such an old Miss fan that he wouldn't intervene when Payton decided to go to Tennessee. If Archie and Ms. Rice cannot be on the committee because they are pre-disposed, I guess these other members of the committee are also not acceptable to some of my LSU friends….
Jeff Long: Current Arkansas AD
Barry Alvarez: Current Wisconsin AD
Lt. Gen. Michael C Gould: Current Superintendent of the United States Air Force Academy
Patrick Hayden: Current Southern California AD
Tom Jernstedt: NCAA Executive Vice President
Oliver Luck: Current West Virginia AD
Archie Manning:
Tom Osborne: ex longtime Nebraska coach
Dan Radakovich: Current Clemson AD. Former Georgia Tech AD
Condoleezza Rice
Michael Tranghese: Big East Conference commissioner
Steve Wieberg: USA Today sportswriter
Tyrone Willingham: Stanford / Notre Dame / Washington
This post was edited on 10/17/13 at 11:09 am
Posted on 10/17/13 at 11:22 am to Jacknola
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I live is this fricking state, have for 35 years, and still don’t understand the paranoia and self-importance that infects some who are associated with LSU. Everyone is against them, everyone is trying to cheat them, everyone else in the entire country is clueless
WTF....My post talked about the SEC as a whole and doesn't relate to just LSU.
Typical Bama fan...LSUsessed....3 weeks bro not that long.
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But then if the committee decided that LSU didn’t meet the qualifications for the playoffs
Dude I don't give a frick if the qualifications are to wear crimson, play all cupcakes, play all your home game in Tuscaloosa, and have you head coach wear a houndstooth hat around. I really don't care. If we know the qualifications we will adapt.
Right now we don't know the qualifications and when I hear stuff like "We aren't going to handcuff the committee." from Hancock it leads me to believe that we will never know them.....and that they could change from year to year.
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I guess these other members of the committee are also not acceptable to some of my LSU friends
With quoted standards for selection, I couldn't care less who is on the committee. Hell they could pick my wife...she can sit down and follow rules. However, if they are letting the committee go willy nilly on the selection process you're damn right I want someone with my best interests in mind on there.
This post was edited on 10/17/13 at 11:23 am
Posted on 10/17/13 at 11:30 am to Bumpndnite
Posted on 10/17/13 at 11:42 am to Rebel89
Jeff Long: Current Arkansas AD (obvious SEC lean)
Barry Alvarez: Current Wisconsin AD (obvious B1G lean)
Lt. Gen. Michael C Gould: Current Superintendent of the United States Air Force Academy (seems unbiased on the surface?)
Patrick Hayden: Current Southern California AD (obvious PAC lean)
Tom Jernstedt: NCAA Executive Vice President (seems unbiased on the surface)
Oliver Luck: Current West Virginia AD (obvious Big 12 lean)
Archie Manning: (obvious SEC lean)
Tom Osborne: ex longtime Nebraska coach (obvious B1G lean)
Dan Radakovich: Current Clemson AD. Former Georgia Tech AD (obvious ACC lean)
Condoleezza Rice (seems unbiased but is from Alabama and sounds like she might be an SEC fan)
Michael Tranghese: Big East Conference commissioner (obvious Big East lean but might also favor Northeastern teams like B1G)
Steve Wieberg: USA Today sportswriter (seems unbiased but is a Mizzou alum so might have slight SEC favoritism)
Tyrone Willingham: Stanford / Notre Dame / Washington (seems unbiased but might have a PAC lean)
Seems fairly balanced but probably skewed a bit towards the Midwest/West Coast.
Barry Alvarez: Current Wisconsin AD (obvious B1G lean)
Lt. Gen. Michael C Gould: Current Superintendent of the United States Air Force Academy (seems unbiased on the surface?)
Patrick Hayden: Current Southern California AD (obvious PAC lean)
Tom Jernstedt: NCAA Executive Vice President (seems unbiased on the surface)
Oliver Luck: Current West Virginia AD (obvious Big 12 lean)
Archie Manning: (obvious SEC lean)
Tom Osborne: ex longtime Nebraska coach (obvious B1G lean)
Dan Radakovich: Current Clemson AD. Former Georgia Tech AD (obvious ACC lean)
Condoleezza Rice (seems unbiased but is from Alabama and sounds like she might be an SEC fan)
Michael Tranghese: Big East Conference commissioner (obvious Big East lean but might also favor Northeastern teams like B1G)
Steve Wieberg: USA Today sportswriter (seems unbiased but is a Mizzou alum so might have slight SEC favoritism)
Tyrone Willingham: Stanford / Notre Dame / Washington (seems unbiased but might have a PAC lean)
Seems fairly balanced but probably skewed a bit towards the Midwest/West Coast.
This post was edited on 10/17/13 at 11:43 am
Posted on 10/17/13 at 11:55 am to scrooster
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The committee also must select the highest ranked champion from the non-Power Five leagues (American, Conference USA, Mid-American, Mountain West and Sun Belt), which will receive an automatic bid to one of the six bowls associated with the College Football Playoff.
Good. So that doesn't mean they automatically get into the playoff itself. Just one of the bowls at least.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 11:55 am to Bumpndnite
I'm sure it'll be what ever criteria makes bama look the best?
It'll look like this.
Best resume? No
Best win? No
Eyeball test ? I guess.
Cool. We are going with eyeball test.
It'll look like this.
Best resume? No
Best win? No
Eyeball test ? I guess.
Cool. We are going with eyeball test.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 11:57 am to Porter Wagoner
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Seems fairly balanced but probably skewed a bit towards the Midwest/West Coast.
No idea how you arrived at that conclusion...
This post was edited on 10/17/13 at 11:57 am
Posted on 10/17/13 at 11:57 am to makersmark1
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The SEC Championship is about as close as you can get to deciding things on the field, but even it has shortcomings.
Exactly. The sec title is the only title the coaches and players have 100% control over.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 11:59 am to Crimson Legend
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This is true, but be careful with the conclusion from this statement. Even though it is subjective to say that Louisville's schedule is weaker than LSU's, only a complete fool would be more impressed with an undefeated Louisville over a one loss LSU. Subjectivity is inferior to objectivity only when the objective evidence is highly sound and highly relevant.
Well yeah. When you're going with opposite ends of the spectrum, but when it was like last year , who is to say bama was more deserving of Oregon?
Posted on 10/17/13 at 12:01 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Best win? No
Our fingers are crossed that someday, beating LSU will be worth something again.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 12:04 pm to makersmark1
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There will never be a system in college football where off the field stuff is ignored. In the NFL, last year is not considered at all. In college, last year either gives you a boost or something to overcome.
Exactly. There are people that would vote a 1 loss bama in over an undefeated FSU or Oregon because bama has won 2 subjective titles in a row
Posted on 10/17/13 at 12:06 pm to Charlestondawg
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Condoleesa Rice is actually a great pick. She has great skills in organization and dealing with BS plus she is a huge fan and follower of college football. She's a sports nut.
You've got to be kidding. No doubt she is smart but you can't sit here and tell me that she was one of the most qualified people in America to decide a cfb national title participant.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 12:09 pm to PrivatePublic
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Our fingers are crossed that someday, beating LSU will be worth something again.
Your second best sec win 2011 was a 7-6 Florida.
Your second best sec win in 2012 was a 7-6 ole miss.
These are facts.
You got into the 2011 bcs title game while having beaten 3 teams with a winning record while OSU had beaten 5 top 25 teams.
The bcs title is the most subjective title in all of major American sports.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 12:15 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Your second best sec win 2011 was a 7-6 Florida.
Your second best sec win in 2012 was a 7-6 ole miss.
Your best sec win in 2011 was 21-0 over the greatest LSU team eva
Posted on 10/17/13 at 12:30 pm to dachsie
The criteria for the committee will eliminate 2 SEC teams in the playoff. Also will be a faster way to prove an 8 team playoff is necessary.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 12:30 pm to dachsie
The criteria for the committee will eliminate 2 SEC teams in the playoff. Also will be a faster way to prove an 8 team playoff is necessary.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 1:19 pm to dachsie
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And the automatic bid for the highest ranking second tier conferences.
Only automatic bid for one of the six bowls...Sugar, Rose, Orange, Fiesta, Cotton, and Chick-Fil-A...not an automatic bid into the actual playoff.
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