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Posted on 10/17/13 at 6:52 am
Posted on 10/17/13 at 6:52 am
Has anyone seen what criteria the Selection Committee will use next season?
I've seen no articles on how this committee will actually operate.
For example, will they use polls as the basis to start the discussions? Will they post weekly rankings?
I don't think the makeup of the committee bodes well for the SEC. It seems slanted toward the west, and midwest to me.
I've seen no articles on how this committee will actually operate.
For example, will they use polls as the basis to start the discussions? Will they post weekly rankings?
I don't think the makeup of the committee bodes well for the SEC. It seems slanted toward the west, and midwest to me.
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Posted on 10/17/13 at 6:53 am to Bumpndnite
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Posted on 10/17/13 at 6:53 am to Bumpndnite
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I don't think the makeup of the committee bodes well for the SEC. It seems slanted toward the west, and midwest to me.
Exactly as I expected. If Delaney is praising it, you know that committee is stacked for the Big 10.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 6:58 am to Bumpndnite
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Strength of schedule mentioned. And the automatic bid for the highest ranking second tier conferences.
Strength of schedule mentioned. And the automatic bid for the highest ranking second tier conferences.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 7:02 am to dachsie
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Strength of schedule mentioned. And the automatic bid for the highest ranking second tier conferences.
The first two criteria are a contradiction already.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 7:04 am to Bumpndnite
It is virtually impossible to make a National Championship when you start with 120 teams.
The SEC Championship is about as close as you can get to deciding things on the field, but even it has shortcomings.
At the end of the day, a perfect season is all a team can control. The rest has always been up to the media and other subjective things.
This is nothing new.
The SEC Championship is about as close as you can get to deciding things on the field, but even it has shortcomings.
At the end of the day, a perfect season is all a team can control. The rest has always been up to the media and other subjective things.
This is nothing new.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 7:16 am to makersmark1
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At the end of the day, a perfect season is all a team can control. The rest has always been up to the media and other subjective things.
This is true, but be careful with the conclusion from this statement. Even though it is subjective to say that Louisville's schedule is weaker than LSU's, only a complete fool would be more impressed with an undefeated Louisville over a one loss LSU. Subjectivity is inferior to objectivity only when the objective evidence is highly sound and highly relevant.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 7:20 am to Bumpndnite
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will they use polls as the basis to start the discussions? Will they post weekly rankings?
I would impose a rule that they are forbidden to consider any poll that publishes rankings prior to the 7th week of the season. I don't mean wait until the 7th week to look at the polls. Tell the polls, "If you publish a ranking before week 7, you're out of the mix." Not going to happen, I know, but the polls starting up preseason, based on last year's bowl results, then needing a loss by a highly ranked team to move it down, has a distorting effect.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 7:38 am to dachsie
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Strength of schedule mentioned. And the automatic bid for the highest ranking second tier conferences.
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The committee will meet four times during the college football season and will release rankings every other week starting in mid-October, Hancock said.
Committee members will serve approximately three-year terms, although the initial members will have their terms staggered so they all don't leave at the same time. Committee members will not be paid, Hancock said.
The reason the committee is 13 was because it was "the right number," Hancock said. Everyone contacted to be on the committee enthusiastically wanted to be on the committee, but some individuals couldn't make the necessary time commitments. Hancock would not indicate how many individuals turned down the opportunity.
Hancock said future committees could have more or fewer members.
Rice, meanwhile, said she already has some thoughts on the system.
"I'm going to tell you, strength of schedule is going to matter a lot, head to head is going to matter a lot, and I think this is going to encourage teams to play a tougher schedule," Rice told Cowherd. "The committee is getting together soon and I'm looking forward to having the chance to discuss this without the pressure of picking teams."
Besides picking the four teams for the College Football Playoff, the selection committee will be responsible for ranking and placing at-large teams in the noncontract New Year's Day bowls (Cotton, Fiesta and Chick-fil-A).
The committee also must select the highest ranked champion from the non-Power Five leagues (American, Conference USA, Mid-American, Mountain West and Sun Belt), which will receive an automatic bid to one of the six bowls associated with the College Football Playoff.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 7:44 am to scrooster
Im wondering how they will actually come to an agreement as to who is chosen and how they are seeded. Will each member rank their top 4 with each member's ballot getting equal weight? Or wil it be an open discussion where they try to come to a consensus together as a group, sorta similar to a jury? What kind of power does Jeff Long have as the chair?
Posted on 10/17/13 at 7:50 am to Crimson Legend
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Subjectivity is inferior to objectivity only when the objective evidence is highly sound and highly relevant.
2004 13-0 Auburn
1966 11-0 Alabama
These were both Champions. They did all they could on the field and yet elements beyond their control did not "declare" them "worthy. "
There will never be a system in college football where off the field stuff is ignored. In the NFL, last year is not considered at all. In college, last year either gives you a boost or something to overcome.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 7:52 am to scrooster
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Committee members will not be paid,
if AU is in the running, I will make sure the committee is paid.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 8:04 am to makersmark1
Condoleesa Rice is actually a great pick. She has great skills in organization and dealing with BS plus she is a huge fan and follower of college football. She's a sports nut.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 8:50 am to makersmark1
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2004 13-0 Auburn
1966 11-0 Alabama
These were both Champions. They did all they could on the field and yet elements beyond their control did not "declare" them "worthy. "
There will never be a system in college football where off the field stuff is ignored. In the NFL, last year is not considered at all. In college, last year either gives you a boost or something to overcome.
Yet Utah was undefeated in 2004 (and again in 2007/8 when Florida won it all), so unless you add some sort of subjective element, then neither 2004 auburn nor 2007 Florida deserve the championship any more than they do (not to mention 2004 USC).
Posted on 10/17/13 at 8:55 am to Bumpndnite
There are no rules for the committee. They are allowed to use whatever criteria they deem necessary, which for some will mean things like SOS, W/L, eye test, margin of victory, etc. For others, it will mean coin flips and pulling teams out of their asses.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 8:55 am to Crimson Legend
SEC Champion with 0 or 1 loss will be a lock for top 4
SEC Champion with 2 losses could be more worthy of another one loss team
As long as you don't load up with a really weak non conf schedule
SEC Champion with 2 losses could be more worthy of another one loss team
As long as you don't load up with a really weak non conf schedule
Posted on 10/17/13 at 8:57 am to Crimson Legend
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Yet Utah was undefeated in 2004 (and again in 2007/8 when Florida won it all), so unless you add some sort of subjective element, then neither 2004 auburn nor 2007 Florida deserve the championship any more than they do (not to mention 2004 USC).
I'm glad the NFL just plays games to decide who the champ is. If they voted, Denver would have gone to the Super Bowl last year instead of the Ravens.
All you can do is try to win all of your games. Whatever "system" or "process" 13 humans come up with will have difficulty sorting out multiple undefeated teams- much less multiple 1 loss teams.
A True Championship is not really possible in College football. Too many teams playing too few games. NFL is 32 teams playing 16 games to slot 12 playoff teams. College is 120 teams playing 12 or 13 games to decide 4 (next year). I expect chaos some years- especially for picking number 4.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 10:41 am to makersmark1
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All you can do is try to win all of your games. Whatever "system" or "process" 13 humans come up with will have difficulty sorting out multiple undefeated teams- much less multiple 1 loss teams.
A True Championship is not really possible in College football. Too many teams playing too few games. NFL is 32 teams playing 16 games to slot 12 playoff teams. College is 120 teams playing 12 or 13 games to decide 4 (next year). I expect chaos some years- especially for picking number 4.
Agree with all of this. I am just saying that some people want to go from "no system is fair" to "let's not bother to even evaluate schedules", and ignore the fact that wins and losses are not equal. If you do that, it's even less fair than what we have.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 10:44 am to Bumpndnite
I just hope the playoff gets teams to ditch FCS games.
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