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SEC's Program Success Index

Posted on 3/15/12 at 8:33 am
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
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Posted on 3/15/12 at 8:33 am
Inspired by the thread yesterday on which program was the best throughout all sports I put this together.


Taking the current rankings and championship finishes as of 3/15/2012, I've developed a simple index for program success. Where a team finishes in the final poll or as in track and field where the team places in the Championship meet is where the points come from. There is a 50 point penalty for not being ranked in a sport, essentially ranking the sucky teams 50th in each respective sport. If a team finished lower than 50th, they were rounded up to 50th in the calculations.

This is the spreadsheet of all SEC sponsored sports and bass fishing since all the schools participate and it's a prevalent activity in our southern culture.



Here is the aggregate totals and the average by team.


And the rankings top to bottom by avg.



So the Program Success Index reveals a few things.
Some that were not a suprise and some that are interesting.

First Florida is across the board solid in all of its sports teams, Football is usually top 15 in the last 20 year so Muschamp has to right that really quick.

Second, Texas A&M. I was surprised to see them rank in as many sports as they do, but the important ones they suck arse in. The revenue sports A&M lags way behind in.

Third, tFLAGSHIP. We either go big or go home. Way overperforming, we shite the pot at the Xcountry championships and DNP in a sport we dominated not that long ago.

Fourth, Tenner is in deep shite, only bass fishing saved them from averaging over 40 on a scale that maxes out @ 50. The Tennessee program is underperforming so badly its embarassing.

Fifth, Mizzou really sucks, this hoops team being ranked high is their feather in the cap, and Florida could very well bounce them in the 2nd round this weekend to drop them further down the index.

Sixth, Why in the hell is Vanderbilt still in the SEC? Why do we not have more events in Nashville? Great music town, centrally located, lots of entertainment and hotel rooms. Nashville should be host to more SEC tournaments and Champ. games.

Seventh, Alabama only cares about football, if they had to do it clean they'd be Miss. St. Bama is the most overrated program in college sports.

Eighth, LSU really has the most potential in the SEC. Larger population base, deep pool of athletes, great warm weather, they are the major university in their state, they don't really have to share the state with other schools. La Tech, ULL, Tulane are glorified DII schools.

Ninth, S. Carolina and Kentucky are one trick ponies, they really need to step it up and leverage their SEC membership in neighboring states.

Tenth, Why in god's name is Missouri now in the SEC? I don't mind A&M, but Missouri is culturally a non-fit and their wrestling program is soon to be an orphan. They might as well offer Lacrosse and men's soccer. They're the welfare recipient of the SEC.
This post was edited on 3/15/12 at 8:37 am
Posted by FulmersGonnaFixIt
Brentwood, TN (Utopia)
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 3/15/12 at 8:38 am to
So some teams get ranked outside of the top 25 and some teams do not?
Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 3/15/12 at 8:39 am to
We've got a very well rounded Athletic Dept, but without success in Foosball it feels lacking.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140686 posts
Posted on 3/15/12 at 8:40 am to
Take out bass fishing:

1) it makes UT look worse
2) it makes UF look worse
3) it's not an NCAA sanctioned event

Pretty cool ranking system you did there.

I've added you to the good Arky list. The other three Arkies on it and I welcome you and congratulate you on this very special honor bestowed upon you.
Posted by parrothead
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Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 3/15/12 at 8:40 am to
quote:

Seventh, Alabama only cares about football, if they had to do it clean they'd be Miss. St. Bama is the most overrated program in college sports.


obvious troll is obvious....but i'll leave you with this......



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Posted by FulmersGonnaFixIt
Brentwood, TN (Utopia)
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 3/15/12 at 8:42 am to
Ranking is gheye as hell. South Carolina gets the same credit as Tennessee in basketball. Very scientific of you.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 3/15/12 at 8:45 am to
quote:

Seventh, Alabama only cares about football, if they had to do it clean they'd be Miss. St. Bama is the most overrated program in college sports.


Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
37538 posts
Posted on 3/15/12 at 8:46 am to
quote:

So some teams get ranked outside of the top 25 and some teams do not?


Each sport is different. For example the football poll, if the poll would have been extended based on votes, Mizzou would have ranked 29th. Tennessee had a craptastic losing season, UT benefitted from me capping the points in a sport at 50. Mizzou benefitted from receiving votes, they should not be penalized for being just outside the top 25.

In track, where you placed in the meet is where you rank essentially. If a team didn't get points in a poll they were given a non rank penalty and basically ranked 50th. If you're like S. Carolina and Arkansas basketball and aren't in the top 50 there's a small bump to even it all out because there are differing numbers of schools that participate in different sports. I assume there's at least 50 schools in the SEC sponsored sports.
Posted by Quigley
Down Under
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Posted on 3/15/12 at 8:46 am to
Bass fishing?
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
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Posted on 3/15/12 at 8:52 am to
quote:

I've added you to the good Arky list. The other three Arkies on it and I welcome you and congratulate you on this very special honor bestowed upon you.


I'll take it.
Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets
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Posted on 3/15/12 at 8:54 am to
quote:

The other three Arkies


I know for an absolute, undeniable, divine fact that I am one of these. I'm curious on the others.
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
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Posted on 3/15/12 at 8:55 am to
You know if your sig image was a t-shirt, I'd wear it around town.
Posted by hg
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Posted on 3/15/12 at 8:56 am to
And not a single frick was given that day.
Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets
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Posted on 3/15/12 at 8:59 am to
I tried to get one for Waka before I had to grow up and shite.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 3/15/12 at 9:06 am to
Where's gymnastics and softball? Did you really count fishing?
Posted by Slippery Slope
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Posted on 3/15/12 at 9:07 am to
Holy shite. I had no idea we had a bass fishing team.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
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Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 3/15/12 at 9:14 am to
Vanderbilt is 20th in the AP basketball poll, not 33rd.
Posted by jatebe
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Posted on 3/15/12 at 9:14 am to
quote:

Where's gymnastics and softball? Did you really count fishing?


Posted by nola4ua
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 3/15/12 at 9:16 am to
Cool story, Hansel
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 3/15/12 at 9:17 am to
quote:

LSU really has the most potential in the SEC. Larger population base


Larger than Florida, Texas and Georgia? Are you out of your mind?

quote:

deep pool of athletes, great warm weather,


You just described pretty much every SEC state except maybe Arkansas, Tennessee and Kentucky.

quote:

they are the major university in their state, they don't really have to share the state with other schools. La Tech, ULL, Tulane are glorified DII schools.


Florida shares a much bigger state with really only three other significant programs: Miami, FSU and USF. Georgia shares its bigger state with only one: Ga. Tech. A&M shares a freaking HUGE state with maybe five: Texas, Baylor, Texas Tech, TCU, Houston. All the rest are Tulane, ULL, ULM, La. Tech level programs. Missouri shares another bigger state with no one.

Taking the population of each SEC state and dividing it by the number of major programs in the state to get the population presumably available to each school, LSU would not rank in the top four in the SEC. At the very least, Florida, Georgia, Texas A&M and Missouri would rank ahead in terms of available population per school.
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