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re: SECN worth $4.77B
Posted on 8/26/15 at 1:15 pm to Stonehog
Posted on 8/26/15 at 1:15 pm to Stonehog
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Having some local college kids filming fill is NOT most of their employees so if you think this is the case you are a slow coach. I know many ESPN guys filming and they are in their 40's making well more than minimum wages. They are not letting some minimum wage kids run those expensive cameras. As for UK, with KET right across the street, ESPN used to hire their film guys to run the cameras for ESPN games.
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It's crazy that most of their employees make minimum wage.
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All the games are filmed by current SEC students making $7.50 an hour.
Having some local college kids filming fill is NOT most of their employees so if you think this is the case you are a slow coach. I know many ESPN guys filming and they are in their 40's making well more than minimum wages. They are not letting some minimum wage kids run those expensive cameras. As for UK, with KET right across the street, ESPN used to hire their film guys to run the cameras for ESPN games.
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Posted on 8/26/15 at 1:38 pm to Cheese Grits
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Having some local college kids filming fill is NOT most of their employees so if you think this is the case you are a slow coach. I know many ESPN guys filming and they are in their 40's making well more than minimum wages. They are not letting some minimum wage kids run those expensive cameras. As for UK, with KET right across the street, ESPN used to hire their film guys to run the cameras for ESPN games.
They absolutely are. I witnessed it firsthand because I used to work there.
It's not just cam ops either. They have minimum wage kids running audio, graphics, Dreamcatcher, Blackmagic, etc.
Posted on 8/26/15 at 1:42 pm to cardboardboxer
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False.
In a world filled with DVRs and cord cutting the value of live college football games has never been higher. It is a reason for millennials to pay for cable, and it's live appeal is the only good reason anyone has to watch TV commercials anymore.
Bingo!
I literally just called to have the cable company come out to set me up for college football season. Once the season ends, I cancel. Only reason I buy it is for college football games.
This post was edited on 8/26/15 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 8/26/15 at 2:01 pm to Stonehog
Is this just in Arkansas?
I think Conway was the base early on so LR is closer than Fayetteville where KET is literally right beside most UK sports facilities. Vandy is in Nashville so talent there is not hard to find. Maybe it is just an onsite issue in Fayetteville.
Even so, the bulk of content is being generated out of North Carolina and my guess is the averages would be higher just for the "talent" and executives located there driving the "average" numbers way up.
I think Conway was the base early on so LR is closer than Fayetteville where KET is literally right beside most UK sports facilities. Vandy is in Nashville so talent there is not hard to find. Maybe it is just an onsite issue in Fayetteville.
Even so, the bulk of content is being generated out of North Carolina and my guess is the averages would be higher just for the "talent" and executives located there driving the "average" numbers way up.
Posted on 8/26/15 at 2:02 pm to betweenthebara
I think the majority of us only watch live football games on the SECN.
Nobody is going to watch SEC Nation because it's second-tier to college gameday (it airs the same time too right?)
I also believe that although we all here like the SEC most, we actually want to hear about other teams and conferences too, and the SECN just doesn't have that. I know when I watch it, after a while I get tired of the SEC talk.
Nobody is going to watch SEC Nation because it's second-tier to college gameday (it airs the same time too right?)
I also believe that although we all here like the SEC most, we actually want to hear about other teams and conferences too, and the SECN just doesn't have that. I know when I watch it, after a while I get tired of the SEC talk.
Posted on 8/26/15 at 2:11 pm to Cheese Grits
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Is this just in Arkansas?
It's like this at every SEC campus.
Posted on 8/26/15 at 2:20 pm to Stonehog
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It's like this at every SEC campus.
We have different observations then. When I am at SEC events, which is pretty regular, the "talent" and non "talent" seem to be between 30 and 50 and make more than minimum. Most of the guys inside the mobile trucks have grey hair on their heads and beards.
Where I see the minimum folks you speak of, it is the secondary folks like the ones that work for TexAgs and the like, but they are not working for ESPN that I am aware of. They work for the local or a IMG type group.
Posted on 8/26/15 at 2:37 pm to tmc94
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there are no Nielson ratings yet but the SECN+ data extrapolated suggests the baseball games broadcast on SECN rival ESPNU football broadcasts (it's highest ratings throughout the year) as far as viewers
I don't believe that...besides the fact that Nielson ratings are available the day after broadcast.
MLB baseball barely registers outside the playoffs.
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Posted on 8/26/15 at 2:45 pm to 5thTiger
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As for the show in general. 4 hours of anything that isn't a game is stupid. You could show two separate movies in that time span.
Whether you like Finebaum or not, people tune in for news, opinion and discussion of the SEC. Old games don't provide those things.
This post was edited on 8/26/15 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 8/26/15 at 2:49 pm to TeLeFaWx
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LSU knows enough. They ran away from us in the 90s when we shipped them like a rented mule.
Aggie is the only one who brags about beating LSU in the 90's
We owned you before and have owned you since so I guess it's all you have. Sad.
Posted on 8/26/15 at 2:52 pm to 5thTiger
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I don't believe that...besides the fact that Nielson ratings are available the day after broadcast.
SECN is not rated and will not be rated this year. It's not about when they are available. Anything before 2016 will never be available.
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MLB baseball barely registers outside the playoffs.
Clearly you have no idea how bad ESPNU ratings are. 200k viewers is the norm for a football game
Posted on 8/26/15 at 2:55 pm to Cheese Grits
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Where I see the minimum folks you speak of, it is the secondary folks like the ones that work for TexAgs and the like, but they are not working for ESPN that I am aware of. They work for the local or a IMG type group.
At every SEC campus, they use "student assistants" for a litany of SEC Network jobs. Cameras, shaders, audio, graphics. Everything.
Go to a Kentucky volleyball game, then go into the control room that is run by the university. Those kids are working for the SEC Network, and they're making $7.50 an hour.
Posted on 8/26/15 at 3:04 pm to AUNashville
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I think the majority of us only watch live football games on the SECN.
Nobody is going to watch SEC Nation because it's second-tier to college gameday (it airs the same time too right?)
I also believe that although we all here like the SEC most, we actually want to hear about other teams and conferences too, and the SECN just doesn't have that. I know when I watch it, after a while I get tired of the SEC talk.
Why would we only watch live games on SECN? I know that's not true for me and I doubt that it is for the majority.
I understand wanting coverage on non-SEC games, but SEC Nation does do that some. Also, ESPN spends most of it's time only covering a few teams, so it's really little different. For at least 10 years now, I haven't watched anything on ESPN but live games. College Gameday went downhill long ago and I actually think SEC Nation is better.
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