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re: SEC Schools : Enrollment % by State (per University enrollment reports)
Posted on 4/12/16 at 1:41 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
Posted on 4/12/16 at 1:41 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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I'm actually surprised Alabama has more OOS kids than Ole Miss
Our out of state recruiters + football success + our gorgeous/sparkling updated campus has created a whirlwind of success in getting two types of OOS kids (1) the types you mentioned earlier who barely miss getting into UGA/A&M/Texas/Virginia/UNC and (2) really smart kids who we give massive scholarships and other stuff too, more so than almost anywhere else.
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 1:43 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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That OOS tuition $$ ain't too bad either
quote:Bama's OOS tuition is a LOT cheaper than in-state tuition for kids from Cali/NY/Ohio/PA/etc.
Except when you have to pay it for your kids one day
This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 4/12/16 at 1:44 pm to 3andOut
Posted on 4/12/16 at 1:45 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Sorry our local school systems are good enough to actually send kids to college
Take out those suburban school systems, and what do you really have?
Posted on 4/12/16 at 1:45 pm to fibonaccisquared
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Sadly, the bastardizing hyperbolists won.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 1:49 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Sorry our local school systems are good enough to actually send kids to college
It is that Texas can afford to support the institution on in state tuition $s.
All the other schools use out of state money to help meet budget demands
Posted on 4/12/16 at 1:50 pm to c on z
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Take out those suburban school systems, and what do you really have?
Take the nice parts out of anywhere and what do you have?
Posted on 4/12/16 at 1:52 pm to RT1941
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Bama's OOS tuition is a LOT cheaper than in-state tuition for kids from Cali/NY/Ohio/PA/etc.
Met a ton of kids who were in this situation at Auburn.
"University of Illinois cost $18,000 for tuition + more expensive cost of living. Figured I would go out of state somewhere cool instead"
Once you make that decision, the difference between tuition for a $18k school and $20k school isn't going to be the deciding factor
Posted on 4/12/16 at 1:52 pm to The Balinese Club
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Literally no one outside the state of Texas can get accepted to A&M.
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There. FIFY.
No.. not fixed. As others have said, the 10% rule pretty much becomes the self fulfilling prophecy that you're not likely to take a lot of OOS students... particularly given the size of the state of Texas, the number of total students that fall in that 10%. Not that it's a bad thing, just is a result of the rule. I'm pretty certain that there are plenty of others that *could* and do get accepted to aTm, but it's not a huge "destination school" for OOS students by any means either.
Similarly, the HOPE grant in Georgia does a pretty good job of filling up the incoming freshman class with top talent from in-state as well.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 1:53 pm to GenesChin
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Once you make that decision, the difference between tuition for a $18k school and $20k school isn't going to be the deciding factor
Yep - and a lot of the schools in the South have great weather, fun social scenes, pretty people, beautiful campuses and improved, adequate education.
Why not?
Posted on 4/12/16 at 1:59 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Texas A&M students have almost zero interaction with anyone from outside the state of Texas (and they are more reliant on Texas than any school on a 2nd state).
In their defense, Texas is not like most other states. It's essentially its own region of the country... and its as far more diverse than most other states.
Texas is roughly the size of Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama, Mississippi, and Arkansas combined. It also has roughly 3x the percentage of Hispanics living there and 2x the percentage of Asians living there compared to those other five states all combined.
Texas also has four metro areas with 2 million+ residents (Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, & Austin)... while the entire rest of the SEC footprint has only six (Atlanta, Orlando, Tampa, Miami, St. Louis, & Kansas City). You could also argue that 5 of those 6 are on the extreme fringes of footprint. All 3 Florida cities are south of Gainesville. St. Louis and Kansas City are new to the footprint, and on the extreme northwest side.
Texas A&M doesn't really have a need to go outside its own state. Plus, there are just too many kinds living in Texas who want to go to either Texas or Texas A&M..... it would not be fair to the residents of Texas if the biggest public schools started turning down even more in-state kids to take kids from out of state.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 1:59 pm to BHMKyle
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Texas A&M doesn't really have a need to go outside its own state. Plus, there are just too many kinds living in Texas who want to go to either Texas or Texas A&M..... it would not be fair to the residents of Texas if the biggest public schools started turning down even more in-state kids to take kids from out of state.
Agreed
Posted on 4/12/16 at 2:02 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Bama has scholarships to attract students from out of state. UGA/ AM has scholarships to keep students instate. Funny how it works.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 2:04 pm to BHMKyle
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In their defense, Texas is not like most other states. It's essentially its own region of the country... and its as far more diverse than most other states.
Texas is roughly the size of Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama, Mississippi, and Arkansas combined. It also has roughly 3x the percentage of Hispanics living there and 2x the percentage of Asians living there compared to those other five states all combined.
Texas also has four metro areas with 2 million+ residents (Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, & Austin)... while the entire rest of the SEC footprint has only six (Atlanta, Orlando, Tampa, Miami, St. Louis, & Kansas City). You could also argue that 5 of those 6 are on the extreme fringes of footprint. All 3 Florida cities are south of Gainesville. St. Louis and Kansas City are new to the footprint, and on the extreme northwest side.
Yes. I'm sure people look at those numbers for us and figure everyone knows everyone already and it's hard to meet new people. There are certainly some large high schools in Houston and DFW that feed heavily but over four years I lived with kids from different parts of Houston (Sugar Land, Memorial), Dallas, Ft Worth, San Antonio and Midland. The state is so big with four major metro areas and a lot of other small cities that you still end up meeting people from a lot of different areas
This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 4/12/16 at 2:06 pm to BHMKyle
2 Georgia posters making logical retentive posts. 
Posted on 4/12/16 at 2:07 pm to MaroonNation
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Ole Miss always claims their OOS make up is Dallas kids. Looks like same number are from Memphis
You should know by now that pretty much everything about Ole Miss is built on bullshite.
I bet Ole Miss gets just as many E. Texas kids as they do "Dallas" kids.
U of Arkansas is 5 hrs from the heart of Dallas. Kids from the northern DFW suburbs are closer to Fayetteville than they are to Lubbock. I bet we are 20% Texans next cycle.
This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 4/12/16 at 2:09 pm to GenesChin
TAMU is actually pretty difficult to get into and they give in-state kids preference. That's the reason for their numbers. Texas really needs about two more big-name school campuses that are in high demand. They should be more like California that way.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 2:10 pm to Numberwang
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Texas really needs about two more big-name school campuses that are in high demand. They should be more like California that way.
Yep. Instead, the rest of those Texas kids spread out across the Southeast and West to go to big public schools.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 2:10 pm to Numberwang
They have been pushing the UH/Tech/UNT/UTSA/Tx State grouping to step up by dangling more funding if I remember right
Posted on 4/12/16 at 2:13 pm to Numberwang
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TAMU is actually pretty difficult to get into and they give in-state kids preference. That's the reason for their numbers. Texas really needs about two more big-name school campuses that are in high demand. They should be more like California that way.
A&M is reacting to this demand by growing. Crazy arse plans to grow the Engineering school to 25,000. I don't love it, but as long as you keep your standards, add faculty to keep decent ratios, and continue to improve the infrastructure on campus then I think it'll work out and not just be a degree factory.
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