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re: SEC rant- need your help in conference argument

Posted on 9/10/14 at 8:40 pm to
Posted by Hardy_Har
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Posted on 9/10/14 at 8:40 pm to
Look up the 2011 Gator Bowl and Capitol One Bowl. Add up the scores that Michigan State and Michigan got beat by Alabama and Miss. ST simultaneously... by a combined score of 101 - 21

Stat is neat due to Proximity of all 4 schools
This post was edited on 9/10/14 at 8:42 pm
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 9/10/14 at 8:43 pm to
The last 2 times the big 10 appeared in a NC what happened? UF treated ohio state like they would treat Kentucky on a down year in 06. shite Kentucky beat the lsu team that destroyed the big 10 champ in 07 NC ha. Not to mention Notre dame is pretty much big 10, how'd they do against bama in 2012?

I just can't think of the last time a team around there would have been a top 3 team in the sec much less win it.
Posted by Evolved Simian
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 9/10/14 at 8:55 pm to
quote:

Mizz-SEC



Nice graphic.

OP might also want to note for his inferior friends that the SEC plays more Power Five than any other conference, noting that the others all load their schedules with creampuffs.
Posted by PepaSpray
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Posted on 9/10/14 at 10:59 pm to
quote:


Yw. Only conference with a winning record against the SEC? Big East

yeah but usually our 10th or worst best team is playing their very best team.

Just look at bowl alignments...it's always SEC 5th or 6th vs other power 5 conferences number 1 or 2.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 9/10/14 at 11:18 pm to
Just tell them that UK is trying to schedule Ohio State instead of Ohio, looking for a gimme OOC game.
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 6:25 am to
Tell them 8 sec west teams have atleast played in the national title game in the last 11 years. Then drop the mic
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 6:38 am to
quote:

SEC is overrated and overhyped

We are but still better than everybody else
quote:

I need some good retort

Check the NC list for the past 10 yrs
Tell them Va Tech says hello
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 7:05 am to
You could also state that the SEC bowl record is misleading. Because the SEC has had so many teams make the BCS Title game it has skewed the bowl games. Meaning…

SEC #1 goes to title game
#2 plays some other conferences #1 in a BCS game
#3 plays another conferences #1 in a next tier bowl
#4 plays another conferences #1 or #2 in a next tier bowl

So the SEC has historically been lower in our conference rankings than the teams the SEC plays in a bowl. But still the SEC has the best bowl record by conference.
Posted by Tedock
Little Rock
Member since Jun 2014
715 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:07 am to
Just tell them that the coach of one of their best teams, coming off of two consecutive B1G championships and rose bowl apperances, decided that fricking Arkansas was a better job.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:30 am to
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They really aren't the best conference, it's just media hype.
I guess when the Bungles and Browns are your NFL reps the bar for success gets set pretty low. If they really are the 1 2 3 potato crowd and they are Buckeye fans here is the breakdown by SEC school with current SEC schools underlined.

Alabama 0-3-0 // Tide outscored tosu 75 to 33
1978 Sugar Bowl lost 06 - 35
1986 Kickoff Classic lost 10 - 16
1995 Citrus Bowl 17 - 24

Arkansas 0-0-0
2001 Sugar Bowl was vacated by Buckeyes

Auburn 0-1-1 // Tigers outscore tosu 31 to 14
1917 Montgomery, AL tied 00 - 00
1990 HoF Bowl lost 14 - 31

Florida 0-2-0 // Gators outscore tosu 65 to 31
2007 BCS Championship lost 14 - 41
2012 Gator Bowl lost 17 - 24

Georgia 0-1-1 // Dawgs outscore tosu 21 to 14
1993 Citrus Bowl lost 14 - 21

Georgia Tech (Buckeyes never played while member of SEC)

Kentucky 3-0-0 // Buckeyes last played the Cats when this thing called The Great Depression was going on
1895 Lexington, KY won 06 - 08
1919 Columbus, OH won 49 - 00
1935 Columbus, OH won 19 - 06
(Buckeyes still owe UK a return trip to Lexington)

Louisiana State 1-1-1 // Tigers gave up a close game but still outscores tosu 84 to 73
1987 Baton Rouge, LA tied 13 - 13
1988 Columbus, OH won 36 - 33
2008 BCS Championship lost 24 - 38

Ole Miss (Buckeyes never played while member of SEC)

Mississippi State (Buckeyes never played while member of SEC)

Missouri (Buckeyes never played while member of SEC)
On a side note, they have played 12 times with 10 games in Columbus and only 2 games in Columbia. Mizzou should demand 8 straight home games just to balance the scales.

Sewanee (Buckeyes never played while member of SEC)

South Carolina 0-2-0 // Cocks outscored tosu 55 to 35
2001 Outback Bowl lost 07-24
2002 Outback Bowl lost 28-31

Tennessee 0-1-0 // Vols outscored tosu 20 to 14
1996 Citrus Bowl lost 14-20

Texas A&M (Buckeyes never played while member of SEC)
Like Missouri, The Buckeyes owe 2 trips to College Station just to balance the scales.

Tulane (Buckeyes never played while member of SEC)

Vanderbilt 3-1-0 // Like UK, Buckeyes last played the Dores in The Great Depression
1908 Nashville, TN won 17 - 06
1909 Columbus, OH won 05 - 00
1931 Columbus, OH lost 21 - 26
1933 Columbus, OH won 20 - 00
(Buckeyes owe Dores 2 trips to Nashville to balance the scales)
This post was edited on 9/11/14 at 8:32 am
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:32 am to
That gif is awesome
Posted by BigD Ag
Dallas
Member since Dec 2011
1635 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:41 am to
Ohio St, loss
Mich St, loss
Wisky, loss
Michigan, loss

womp womp

They are terrible.
This post was edited on 9/11/14 at 8:42 am
Posted by Hardy_Har
MS
Member since Nov 2012
16285 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:41 am to
quote:

Just tell them that the coach of one of their best teams, coming off of two consecutive B1G championships and rose bowl apperances, decided that fricking Arkansas was a better job.


YES
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54687 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:47 am to
quote:

Just tell them that the coach of one of their best teams, coming off of two consecutive B1G championships and rose bowl apperances, decided that fricking Arkansas was a better job.


Wisconsin has fried cheese
Arkansas has fried okra

Pretty sure Bert was just picking a state where they fry stuff and they had less snow.
Posted by NotRight37
Nashville, TN
Member since Jul 2014
5843 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 9:24 am to
Even the Midwest Press is down on them now. Perhaps you should hang out with more intelligent people. If I was a BIG fan right now, I wouldn't bring up any other conference.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51274 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 9:27 am to
quote:

Yw. Only conference with a winning record against the SEC? Big East


Sorry about that UConn loss.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54687 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 10:29 am to
quote:

Perhaps you should hang out with more intelligent people.


*golf clap*
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79202 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 11:01 am to
Don't even engage on it. Just talk down to them like they're a minor league conference, which they are. They're not in competition with us, so don't act like it.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 12:55 pm to
quote:

I'm looking for graphics, stats, articles, etc, that prove the SEC's worth


A couple off the top of my head:

Power at the top (BCSNCG wins/appearances):

SEC: 9/11 (one of two losses occurred when 2 SEC teams played each other)
Pac 12: 0/2 (would be 1/3 but USC's 2005 win vacated)
Big XII: 2/8*
ACC: 2/4*
Big East: 1/3*
Big Ten: 1/3*
*(based on conference affiliation at time games were played--as currently constructed, these conferences would have the following numbers:
Big XII 2/7
ACC 3/7
Big Ten 1/4)

With the most appearances, most wins and highest winning percentage, the SEC runs away with this.

Depth of powerhouse teams (number of different teams to appear/win in BCSNCG):

SEC: 5/5
Pac 12: 2/0 (would be 2/1 but USC's 2005 win vacated)
Big XII: 3/2*
Big Ten: 1/1*
ACC: 1/1*
Big East: 2/1*
*(Based on conference affiliation at time games were played, as currently constructed, these conferences would have the following numbers:
Big XII: 2/2
Big Ten: 2/1
ACC: 3/2)

With five different teams, all of whom have won at least once, (not to mention a 6th, Georgia, barely missing out at #3 in 2002/3), the SEC has easily the most powerhouse teams that have played for and won BCS titles. No other conference has had more than 3 teams appear in the NCG or more than 2 win it.
This post was edited on 9/12/14 at 1:14 pm
Posted by ejohns74
Member since Aug 2013
132 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 1:58 pm to
LINK

This should help
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