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re: SEC POY predictions
Posted on 12/3/13 at 8:29 am to RoyalAir
Posted on 12/3/13 at 8:29 am to RoyalAir
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It is simply stunning to me how Connor Shaw, a man who never lost at home and has literally willed his team to victories over the last three years, is continually ignored for superlative honors.
His TD-INT numbers are 21-1. For as much love as McCarron gets over that stat, Shaw's thrown fewer picks.
Regardless, I know he'll get ignored for this, as well as the Heisman. But I wouldn't trade him for any other QB in the conference.
I completely agree that he gets looked over way too much when it comes to conference and national media. Great QB and even better kid. As a UGA loyalist, I cannot tell you how happy I am to see him leaving Columbia. As a fan of the great game of College Football: He will be sorely missed.
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Posted on 12/3/13 at 8:33 am to JStanDawgFan
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Point taken, but the more important aspect of that is that Murray was able to do it 4 times in his career and is the only SEC QB to ever do so. McCarron has never been able to do it once. Again, I am not advocating a McCarron vs. Murray debate, but I just think that speaks to just how good McCarron's teams have been around him much more that him being a more outstanding player than Murray. Both are outstanding and worthy in there own right to be considered for the nomination.
Or Murray has HAD to throw for more yards and yet hasn't accomplished anything close to McCarron when it comes to team goals. Not to mention Murray is listed 6'1" which means he actually height will be 5'11"-6 flat/. That is why he will struggle as a pocket passer in the NFL. You can maybe get away with being that short in the NFL if you are a run threat.
Posted on 12/3/13 at 8:38 am to HoopyD
Connor fricking Neighbors
Posted on 12/3/13 at 8:41 am to Libertyabides71
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That is why he will struggle as a pocket passer in the NFL. You can maybe get away with being that short in the NFL if you are a run threat.
As a former scout, I can assure you that he will be fine when it comes to his prospects of being an NFL QB. Also, if you think that Murray isn't a threat to run then you haven't been paying attention to anything but Alabama football all year. I suggest some folks ask UT if they think Murray isn't a threat to do damage to teams when he leaves the pocket. Just because he doesn't do it every play, doesn't mean he is completely incapable of it...
Posted on 12/3/13 at 8:42 am to DyeHardDylan
I vote for Jake Holland. 
Posted on 12/3/13 at 8:45 am to RoyalAir
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It is simply stunning to me how Connor Shaw, a man who never lost at home and has literally willed his team to victories over the last three years, is continually ignored for superlative honors.
His TD-INT numbers are 21-1. For as much love as McCarron gets over that stat, Shaw's thrown fewer picks.
Regardless, I know he'll get ignored for this, as well as the Heisman. But I wouldn't trade him for any other QB in the conference.
Shaw definitely impressed me the most. Missouri had a defensive answer for every QB they faced this season, including JFF and Murray. But they had no defensive answer for Shaw. He ripped Missouri's defense to shreds.
Posted on 12/3/13 at 8:49 am to Libertyabides71
Not everyone wants to 24/7 suck that bama dick buddy
There are a number of players who I'd say deserve it over AJ and it has nothing to do with me being an LSU fan.
There are a number of players who I'd say deserve it over AJ and it has nothing to do with me being an LSU fan.
Posted on 12/3/13 at 9:10 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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Since when is Auburn the best team in the SEC?
Since they beat Alabama? Of course, they still have to beat Missouri to get that title officially.
Posted on 12/3/13 at 9:12 am to DawgsLife
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Since they beat Alabama? Of course, they still have to beat Missouri to get that title officially.
You gotta give Alabama fans some leeway. They're used to calling themselves the best team in the SEC even when they don't win the conference title.
Posted on 12/3/13 at 9:12 am to BamaStepL
Considering how he LITERALLY carried UGA through injury after injury, comeback vs. Auburn, great game vs. LSU, I vote Murray.
Posted on 12/3/13 at 9:16 am to LanierSpots
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Nick Marshall deserves it if we win Saturday..
Came in, took over in a few weeks. Has been money
It would be difficult to argue against him. Tre Mason has been great, but I think Marshall makes the offense go.
Posted on 12/3/13 at 9:17 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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Since when is Auburn the best team in the SEC? Luckiest maybe. But they won't put the most talent in the NFL.
Nice Avi and Sig... How long has that gotta stay?
Posted on 12/3/13 at 9:19 am to Libertyabides71
quote:WTF does this have to do with who wins POY.
Not to mention Murray is listed 6'1" which means he actually height will be 5'11"-6 flat/. That is why he will struggle as a pocket passer in the NFL. You can maybe get away with being that short in the NFL if you are a run threat.
Posted on 12/3/13 at 9:20 am to Libertyabides71
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Basically AJ took off earlier in blow outs.
No. not really. his backup only threw 29 passes.
Murray did not play in the last game.
On the pother hand, Murray threw the ball 47 times more than McCarron.
Nothing against McCarron. He's a good one.
Posted on 12/3/13 at 9:21 am to HoopyD
ODJ#3 How many yards this season? He also ran a missed field goal back for a 109 yard return.
Tre Mason would be a close second for me. Tre showed out this year.
Tre Mason would be a close second for me. Tre showed out this year.
Posted on 12/3/13 at 9:22 am to Sid E Walker
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but Johnny has had to win games without a defense to help him out. All year long.
And Murray has had a GREAT defense to.....oh. never mind.
Posted on 12/3/13 at 9:26 am to RoyalAir
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It is simply stunning to me how Connor Shaw, a man who never lost at home and has literally willed his team to victories over the last three years, is continually ignored for superlative honors.
Only because he isn't the "sexy" pick. Maybe if he had hair?
Posted on 12/3/13 at 9:33 am to DawgsLife
Skimming over this thread and I haven't seen a single Non-Bama fan say Mccarron. I may be wrong though. Just an observation. Carry on.
Posted on 12/3/13 at 9:35 am to DyeHardDylan
OPOY- Johnny or Mason
DPOY- CJ Moseley or Sam (Cat from Mizzou)
DPOY- CJ Moseley or Sam (Cat from Mizzou)
Posted on 12/3/13 at 9:37 am to Sid E Walker
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but Johnny has had to win games without a defense to help him out. All year long.
UGA's "D" minus App.St & N. Texas...
38
30
41
31
41
31
20
43
17
34
32.6 ppg...
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