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re: SEC Playoff scenario

Posted on 7/5/14 at 10:00 am to
Posted by beaver
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 10:00 am to
This question is almost as stupid as Larry
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 10:00 am to
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True. But didn't you think LSU and Alabama were the two best teams in the country in 2011? I did.


No I thought LSU and oSu were the two best teams. People will use the Iowa St game as excuse for putting Bama in, but the precedent was set few years earlier when tOSU beat Michigan in a 1 v 2 game and you dont get another shot. Notre Dame was best team the year that Charlie Ward won NC and they did not get another shot either.
Posted by beaver
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 10:02 am to
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No I thought LSU and oSu were the two best teams


How? I am an Auburn fan and hate Alabama but the only reason why Bama lost 9-6 was missed FGs

How were they not at least number 2?
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 10:04 am to
They lost at home. They lost to a division team they did not win a CC. I am sorry, but I did not think they were better than oSu at the time and still do not.

People forget the happenings to oSu before the loss to Iowa St. but it was not easy game.

This post was edited on 7/5/14 at 10:06 am
Posted by beaver
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 10:07 am to
They were clearly better than LSU

So I don't know how you still think OSU was better, when they lost to an unranked Iowa State team

Eta nice edit
This post was edited on 7/5/14 at 10:08 am
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 10:09 am to
Alabama was clearly better? They got a rematch. Do you know what traditionally happens in rematches?

OU Nebraska in Orange Bowl OU blows out NU
Alabama LSU in Sugar Alabama blows out LSU

Florida FSU in sugar (although a tie) Florida blowout

The team that controlled the first game usually loses in bad fashion.
Posted by im4LSU
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 10:11 am to
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How? I am an Auburn fan and hate Alabama but the only reason why Bama lost 9-6 was missed FGs


guess I missed where place kickers aren't part of the team.

Those fgs weren't chip shots. I think only one of them was less than 50 yards(43 or something). If they wanted a better shot at making them, get closer. They couldn't.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 10:14 am to
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Do you think the committee could select only 1 SEC team?


Yes I think this will always be the case.
Posted by Agforlife
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 10:30 am to
I think the whole playoff system was adopted to make sure that only one team per conference made it in. I expect it to expand to at least 6 teams within a few years to take the champs from the big 5 and one mid major. Jmo
Posted by LarrytheGolfer
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 10:36 am to
Ohio State with 2 losses won't get in over a 1 loss SEC team just because an undefeated SEC team is already there. The point of the playoff system is to match the 4 best teams.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 10:42 am to
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Ohio State with 2 losses won't get in over a 1 loss SEC team just because an undefeated SEC team is already there. The point of the playoff system is to match the 4 best teams.


No. That's the stupidest shite ever. It's to pick the four most politically correct teams. It's a committee that's regionally balanced, that will play regional favorites. They've already talked about how conference champs will weigh in their decision. This gives them an out for placing a conference champ over a non-conference champ, even if the conference champ is from a weaker conference.

I know your posts reek of gumpness and some of the worst Bama bias I've seen, but let's not be stupid.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 10:43 am to
There will not be 2 1 loss SEC teams though. There has hardly been two unbeaten teams in the SECCG. I think the only way you get 2 sec teams in is if there is something like this....


A Huge upset like if K State beating OU to go to the Fiesta or if UCLA had won the Pac 12 the year they were 6-6. Then the two teams in the SEC game were unbeaten. Tebow's SR year was the only possible way for that, that is only year it could have happened.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 10:45 am to
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I think the whole playoff system was adopted to make sure that only one team per conference made it in.


Correct. The ONLY reason the playoff exists at all is because Alabama got a rematch they didn't deserve. Only when that happened, did the B1G finally get behind it. And some people here really think a committee with influence all over the country REALLY wants to perpetuate a system that has more than one SEC rep, when this whole thing is a response to that scenario? Really?

quote:

I expect it to expand to at least 6 teams within a few years to take the champs from the big 5 and one mid major. Jmo


I think it will be 8 teams. Power 5 conference champs. Highest ranked member of little 5. And 2 at large.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 10:48 am to
If one of the independents or 2 of them are unbeaten they will get in


But the only way 2 of them get in is if BYU goes unbeaten. Notre Dame, Navy, and Army will always get in with a 12-0 record, but they will knock the other 2 out since they all play each other, so in essence they are in a conference.
Posted by LarrytheGolfer
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 10:49 am to
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No. That's the stupidest shite ever. It's to pick the four most politically correct teams.


LOL yeah, its way stupid to pick the 4 best teams in college football to be in the playoff. It makes way more sense to pick the teams based on fairness.

Lets get a 3 loss West Virginia in there because its only fair guyz.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 10:50 am to
Why should a 1 loss team that did not win its conference be invited to play?


One of the criteria is winning the conference. I have no issue with that requirement. You main goal every year is to win the conference, not the NC...that is a secondary goal that usually is not possible without winning a conference.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 10:52 am to
I have no issue with the committee either. People are complaining for no reason. They will be more fair than a biased computer program, SID, and writers.

It is not like they went out and picked a bunch of idiots and people that know nothing about football and pressure.
This post was edited on 7/5/14 at 10:54 am
Posted by LarrytheGolfer
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 10:54 am to
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Why should a 1 loss team that did not win its conference be invited to play?


One of the criteria is winning the conference. I have no issue with that requirement. You main goal every year is to win the conference, not the NC...that is a secondary goal that usually is not possible without winning a conference.


Because these conferences arent equal in strength of schedule, duh. Big Ten competition is a JOKE.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 10:55 am to
Then you sir are a homer. If you really believe the B1G has no talent and is a joke, I just do not know what to tell you then.

If you do not think tOSU or Michigan St last year would not have come in and been in SECCG contention then I am sorry watch something besides SEC football.

You are not comparing conferences you are comparing teams singular teams to each other.
This post was edited on 7/5/14 at 10:58 am
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 10:59 am to
Perfect example was FSU last year, the ACC was awful but they won the BCSNCG. But I guess since they arent in SEC they are horrible.
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