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SEC Officials: Alabama Bias?

Posted on 10/2/12 at 11:05 am
Posted by InLesWeTrust
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Posted on 10/2/12 at 11:05 am
Below are the NCAA rankings for 2000-2011. I'll let you decide and make your own inferences. Also note I've taken the liberty of reducing the scope of this to SEC ranking rather than national ranking to narrow the context.

Fewest Penalties Per Game (NCAA.org)

Year / SEC Rank / Notes

2011 / 1
2010 / 1

2009 / 2 / UT #1 but played 2 less games (63 vs 69) / SECCG (SEC refs) - 1 penalty / MNC (Big East refs) - 5 Penalties

2008 / 1
2007 / 1
2006 / 6 / Miami Dolphins #12
2005 / 5 / Miami Dolphins #26
2004 / 3 / LSU #5
2003 / 4 / LSU #7
2002 / 12 / LSU #6
2001 / 9 / LSU #2
2000 / 9 / LSU #8

I've included the LSU ranking above for transparency to show the common denominator of Nick Saban as head coach. LSU's average ranking (rounding up) was #6 under Nick Saban, not bad, but not great either. Alabama's average ranking under the same coach is #1.

Now for my tinfoil hattery:

Did the NFL suddenly turn Nick Saban into a master of discipline to where all of his teams are now just amazingly well coached to never hold, interfere, jump off-sides, etc? Or...is there some other more nefarious bias at work here?

Naturally, it gets even worse at the SEC HQ (BDS), through 3 games at BDS there have a total of 6 flags thrown on Bama for a total of 39 yards versus 12 for the opponents at 78 yards. As a comparison, in Alabama's opener, Big 12 officials flagged Bama 7 times for 55 yards eclipsing the totals at BDS over 3 full games thus far this year.

Let me also say that I do not think nor believe any Alabama booster, coach, or other university official has paid any of these officials...that's for Auburn.

ETA: While not completely relevant, since the majority seem to point to coaching (which is the logical explanation, I've included Saban's Dolphin's teams to show the disparity between his previous stops and his time with Alabama.)

This post was edited on 10/2/12 at 1:19 pm
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 10/2/12 at 11:06 am to
Bama is one disciplined team.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 10/2/12 at 11:06 am to
quote:

Did the NFL suddenly turn Nick Saban into a master of discipline to where all of his teams are now just amazingly well coached to never hold, interfere, jump off-sides, etc


Bingo
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
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Posted on 10/2/12 at 11:06 am to
LSU fans bitching about refs?






Shocked.
Posted by Rig
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Posted on 10/2/12 at 11:06 am to
Now this, I will fap to.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 10/2/12 at 11:06 am to
Best talent in the country + best coaching staff + most discipline = fewest penalties.

Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
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Posted on 10/2/12 at 11:07 am to
quote:

InLesWeTrust


At first I was

But...

quote:

Let me also say that I do not think nor believe any Alabama booster, coach, or other university official has paid any of these officials...that's for Auburn


Posted by pivey14
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Posted on 10/2/12 at 11:07 am to
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 10/2/12 at 11:08 am to
quote:

Best talent in the country


Some don't seem to understand that when a player is better than the guy he's lining up against, there is no need to commit penalties. Just whip his arse the old fashioned way
Posted by ChoadieMcSmalls
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Posted on 10/2/12 at 11:08 am to


Posted by bigpapamac
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 10/2/12 at 11:09 am to
quote:

2004 / 3 / LSU #5 2003 / 4 / LSU #7 2002 / 12 / LSU #6 2001 / 9 / LSU #2 2000 / 9 / LSU #8


So what you're saying is that Nick Saban teams have always been in the top 10?
Posted by bona fide
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Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 10/2/12 at 11:09 am to
Bias? If there was a bias, why were Bama's opponents penalized less than any team in the conference last year?

eta... and 12th this year?
This post was edited on 10/2/12 at 11:10 am
Posted by Tayday
Houston, TX
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 10/2/12 at 11:09 am to
Dre Kirkpatrick is filled with discipline.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
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Posted on 10/2/12 at 11:10 am to
quote:

pivey14


Posted by jatebe
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Posted on 10/2/12 at 11:11 am to
quote:

Nick Saban a master of discipline

The Process.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 10/2/12 at 11:12 am to
omgggggzzz a ref looked behind him!! thatz against the rulessss!!!!!111
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 10/2/12 at 11:14 am to
quote:

Alabama


quote:

never get called for holding


FIFY
Posted by ChoadieMcSmalls
Look behind you
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Posted on 10/2/12 at 11:14 am to
LOL!

Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 10/2/12 at 11:15 am to
quote:

omgggggzzz a ref looked behind him!! thatz against the rulessss!!!!!111


Meh. If you watch the whole sequence, it's a pretty shitty circumstance. Not saying it's necessarily indicative of anything, but I would not just roll your eyes at it.
Posted by jatebe
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Posted on 10/2/12 at 11:15 am to
I'm curious to see what Les Miles' rank is on penalties as the LSU coach (2005 - 2011). Could you post those?
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