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re: SEC Officials: Alabama Bias?

Posted on 10/4/12 at 3:58 pm to
Posted by geauxturbo
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Posted on 10/4/12 at 3:58 pm to
So why did he average more at LSU than the years previous to LSU?

Prior to LSU
74.8/yr

At LSU
84.8/yr

At bama
60/yr

Process you say?
This post was edited on 10/4/12 at 4:01 pm
Posted by hwnd
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Posted on 10/4/12 at 3:59 pm to
See my comment before this one.

Also,
Posted by RT1941
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Posted on 10/4/12 at 4:02 pm to
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I'm glad Saban is getting the penalties turned around for us. 7 against Mich and Arky were inexcusable. After Arky, they went to 3, and down to 2 last week. I expect 2 or just 1 next week against Mizzou.





Agree 100% - Saban HATES stupid penalities, just goes to show how detailed he is with this team, how involved with every little facet of the production and developement of the players. I doubt very seriously we will see another game this year where we commit 7 penalties again.
Posted by InLesWeTrust
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Posted on 10/4/12 at 4:05 pm to
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Apparently, the SEC officials had Alabama bias in 1996, because you notice the penalties went from 100 in '95, to 65 in '96.


Those are from Michigan State. These are all Saban numbers. Point being, while yes, there was a nice decrease, he's still never proven to be as "disciplined" of a coach as he has been since 2007. Sure did do a lot of "growing as a coach" from a very bad Miami teams in 2005-2006 to 2007 when he instantly became the beacon of fair play. Look, I have no idea why it would be, but no reasonable person could deny it's a questionable delta from his time at Alabama, compared to his time anywhere else as a head coach.

For transparency, I can't find the Toledo football statistics prior to 2000.
Posted by RT1941
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Posted on 10/4/12 at 4:07 pm to
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InLesWeTrust
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Since I'm bored right now...

Penalty Totals for Saban teams by year:

2011 - 49
2010 - 66
2009 - 69
2008 - 57
2007 - 59
2004 - 72
2003 - 102
2002 - 92
2001 - 77
2000 - 81
1999 - 75
1998 - 72
1997 - 62
1996 - 65
1995 - 100

Nope, nothing to see here.
Excuse me, but you're sending wayyyy too much time on Saban. LSU has a HUGE game in the Swamp in just two short days. It promises to be a battle royal. And, here you are researching shite on Nick Saban's historial penalty totals... WTF dude?
Posted by hwnd
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Posted on 10/4/12 at 4:07 pm to
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just goes to show how detailed he is with this team
Not according to these retards. To them, there's a massive conspiracy going on involving the SEC to ensure that Alabama receives less penalties than other teams.

In all seriousness, why is it that LSU fans in particular can't just accept their own team's successes and focus on that, rather than constantly obsessing over Alabama? Isn't their program successful enough on its own? It's kinda sad.
Posted by Silverback
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Posted on 10/4/12 at 4:10 pm to
So an LSU fan is posting a thread about officials cheating???

This is new because in the past they would at least wait until after they lost to start this...preemptive strike?
Posted by InLesWeTrust
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 10/4/12 at 4:10 pm to
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Excuse me, but you're sending wayyyy too much time on Saban. LSU has a HUGE game in the Swamp in just two short days. It promises to be a battle royal. And, here you are researching shite on Nick Saban's historial penalty totals... WTF dude?


You're right, I forgot I'm supposed to be practicing for my role at left tackle and also helping Chavis scheme against the UF run game!! I'd better focus! Thanks!
Posted by RT1941
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Posted on 10/4/12 at 4:11 pm to
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Not according to these retards. To them, there's a massive conspiracy going on involving the SEC to ensure that Alabama receives less penalties than other teams.

In all seriousness, why is it that LSU fans in particular can't just accept their own team's successes and focus on that, rather than constantly obsessing over Alabama? Isn't their program successful enough on its own? It's kinda sad.





I know right?

Like I posted above, LSU has a huge game in the Swamp in two days and InLesWeTrust is wasting his time dragging up Nick Saban's history on penalties?

WTF is wrong with LSU fans that can't celebrate their own team & coaches success and focus on a huge rival game they have on the horizon?
Posted by ChoadieMcSmalls
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Posted on 10/4/12 at 4:11 pm to
The following isn't directed at you, RT, I just happened to click reply on your post for convenience sake.



Penalties were one of the things Saban said he was going to address his first year at Bama. I don't know that he ever made it a priority before then - at least not as much as other parts of the process.

That being said, why is it if you're winning and/or doing well, you must be cheating?

I see holding calls that are missed in every game, whether it's Bama playing or any other SEC team.

Typical Tin-Foil-hattery going on here.

If you really want to prove this theory, go watch every Bama game from last year and count the non-called penalties. Then watch every other game for every other team in the conf and do the same. Tally it up and show the proof.

Hell, it'd probably be a great research/thesis topic for some of you 'tards getting a masters degree in Bamasessed.



This post was edited on 10/4/12 at 4:15 pm
Posted by hwnd
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Posted on 10/4/12 at 4:11 pm to
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Those are from Michigan State
You don't say...
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These are all Saban numbers
Again, you don't say...

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Point being, while yes, there was a nice decrease, he's still never proven to be as "disciplined" of a coach as he has been since 2007. Sure did do a lot of "growing as a coach" from a very bad Miami teams in 2005-2006 to 2007 when he instantly became the beacon of fair play. Look, I have no idea why it would be, but no reasonable person could deny it's a questionable delta from his time at Alabama, compared to his time anywhere else as a head coach.
These are also completely different teams. Did it ever occur to you that maybe it has more to do with who he is NOW than anything else? I mean, when he came to LSU, he wasn't nearly as revered as he was when he came to Alabama. The kids who come to Alabama respect him, so maybe they actually listen when he preaches, and do what he says.

But carry on with your conspiracy if you choose to. I don't really care. I get a kick out of you guys when you start threads like this.
Posted by InLesWeTrust
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Posted on 10/4/12 at 4:13 pm to
An Alabama fans comes into a thread with absolutely nothing at all to add to the discussion but to ask about the discussion itself? This is also new.
Posted by hwnd
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Posted on 10/4/12 at 4:15 pm to
In his defense, what he said was pretty accurate. You guys are notorious for crying "foul" about officiating.
Posted by RT1941
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30161 posts
Posted on 10/4/12 at 4:16 pm to
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Excuse me, but you're sending wayyyy too much time on Saban. LSU has a HUGE game in the Swamp in just two short days. It promises to be a battle royal. And, here you are researching shite on Nick Saban's historial penalty totals... WTF dude?
quote:

You're right, I forgot I'm supposed to be practicing for my role at left tackle and also helping Chavis scheme against the UF run game!! I'd better focus! Thanks!





You need to have your arse in the TigerRant discussing how your team is going to demolish the gators in two days, how the LSU defense will shutdown and scare the shite out of FLA's QB. How Les isn't afraid to go into the Swamp and show Muschamp how to fricking play ball. etc, etc....

Wasting your time on digging up old shite on a coach that hasn't been at LSU for damn near 8 seasons is just sad when you have a great coach and a team that is gunning for another shot at the NC.

Posted by Silverback
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Posted on 10/4/12 at 4:16 pm to
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In his defense, what he said was pretty accurate. You guys are notorious for crying "foul" about officiating.


Glad I am not the only one to have noticed it.
Posted by InLesWeTrust
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 10/4/12 at 4:17 pm to
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Wasting your time on digging up old shite on a coach that hasn't been at LSU for damn near 8 seasons is just sad when you have a great coach and a team that is gunning for another shot at the NC.


Sounds like you have something to hide.

Posted by hwnd
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Posted on 10/4/12 at 4:17 pm to
I think I need to change my avi. This is confusing
Posted by Silverback
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Posted on 10/4/12 at 4:18 pm to
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I think I need to change my avi. This is confusing


Mine actually works...try it
Posted by hwnd
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Posted on 10/4/12 at 4:19 pm to
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Mine actually works...try it
Mine should too, but who knows if it actually does.
Posted by ChoadieMcSmalls
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Posted on 10/4/12 at 4:21 pm to
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These are also completely different teams. Did it ever occur to you that maybe it has more to do with who he is NOW than anything else? I mean, when he came to LSU, he wasn't nearly as revered as he was when he came to Alabama. The kids who come to Alabama respect him, so maybe they actually listen when he preaches, and do what he says.

But carry on with your conspiracy if you choose to. I don't really care. I get a kick out of you guys when you start threads like this.


Agreed. Also, look at his w/l record at MichSt. vs LSU vs Bama. He's won more games at Bama - which could mean a few different things, depending on which team you pull for. If you're a...

Bama fan: CNS has nearly perfected his process as it relates to its effect on young impressionable athletes. CNS has learned more and gotten better at what he does the more experience he has gotten in his career (which is true with most careers)

LSU/Aub fan: CNS is cheating

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