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Posted on 6/21/14 at 7:47 pm to Tigerbait8
Posted on 6/21/14 at 7:47 pm to Tigerbait8
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Also throw in a surprise QB this season.
People will continue to be surprised a QB guru such as Petrino thought Brandon Allen was an elite QB.
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Posted on 6/21/14 at 8:04 pm to Patton
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So if he won't matter is it really a shitty hire? Like I said the people on here who honestly think that Kiff dawg will be the end of our current run are funny. Saban simply would not let that happen. Lane will be gone in two years at the longest, probably to a low end power conference team in need of a jolt. At that point we plug in the next OC till he's hired away.
At least that's the way you're hoping it goes down.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 9:38 pm to LarrytheGolfer
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Coker has the most talent of any QB that Saban has had at Alabama. I
I call bullshite on that statement. There is no way for you or really anyone to known that for certain.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 9:41 pm to LSUdm21
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Annnnnnnd the baseless hype continues. I don't think I've ever seen anything like this.
really? you've never seen baseless hype? Look no further than your prized recruit.
This post was edited on 6/21/14 at 9:43 pm
Posted on 6/21/14 at 10:05 pm to Tigerbait8
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Alabama: Jacob Coker
Better chance to disappoint relative to expectations. The only way he can truly fail is to turn the ball over too much and if Kiffin puts him in bad positions. I don't think he's going to be an abject failure, but I think he'll be a disappointment to the Bama fans that expect him to be 1st or 2nd team All-SEC.
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LSU: Anthony Jennings or Brandon Harris
Disappointment. Jennings looked awful last season in his lone start. Not bad, he looked awful. That was with Jeremy Hill, Odell Beckham and Jarvis Landry. I think he'll be a disappointment and we'll see Harris. I don't know enough about Harris to make a judgment, but having Cameron at OC won't hurt.
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Georgia: Hutson Mason
Better chance to shine. I don't think he'll light the world on fire, but he's not going to be a disappointment. Richt has coached at UGA for 13 seasons. There's been "bad" QB play in 2 of those seasons. One with a freshman at QB/senior walk-on and one with Joe Cox. Cox wasn't even atrocious, he just turned the ball over way too much. Cox reminds me of Bo Wallace, but in drastically different offenses. Cox also didn't get the benefit of the RBs and talented depth at WR like we have now. We also know more about Mason than we did about Cox coming into their RS Sr. years - he's attempted three times as many passes and started two games against bowl teams. Mason will be fine.
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USC: Dylan Thompson
Definitively shine. Thompson will shine. He's got a lot of talented surrounding him and one of the best QB coaches in the game. The Mizzou game was bad last year, but Mizzou also had a nasty DL and it was at Mizzou. He destroyed Clemson a couple years ago.
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Mizzou: Maty Mauk
Better chance to disappoint. As impressive as his run was, he didn't beat a single team with a winning record. He loses his top 3 WRs, the starting RB, and starting TE. I'm not saying he can't shine, but I'll just have to see it with my own eyes. Mizzou hasn't done well in conference play under Pinkel after they won 10 games the prior year - I don't expect that trend to randomly change in the SEC.
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A&M: Kyle Allen or Kenny Hill*
Better chance to shine. Can honestly say I don't know enough about either to make a legitimate judgment. I know aTm has a ton of offensive talent and employ an offensive system that is conducive to QB success. I also know that whoever wins this job has to replace Johnny Football, which won't be easy in and of itself.
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Vandy: Stephen Rivers or Robinson
Disappointment. Or Robinette, right? If Rivers couldn't beat out Harris, I wouldn't expect much. Robinette (beat us, which was pitiful) looked pretty bad last year. He even threw Shaq Wiggins a pick 6. I think McCrary wins the job. He's the most talented. I just don't think he has the necessary talent around him to win as a RS Fr.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 10:21 pm to thatdude1985
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really? you've never seen baseless hype? Look no further than your prized recruit.
I don't see anyone saying Buga will be the most talented RB at LSU in years or any of the other shite being said about Coker. Hell, even people like Mel Kiper are putting him getting drafted in the 1st round next year when the kid hasn't done shite on the college football field yet. He may turn out to be great but this has been nuts.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 10:38 pm to MenloDawg
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Bama fans that expect him to be 1st or 2nd team All-SEC.
I'm not sure why this is the sentiment around here but there seems to be no point in arguing it because it will just be brought up again tomorrow.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 10:47 pm to LSUdm21
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don't see anyone saying Buga will be the most talented RB at LSU in years or any of the other shite being said about Coker.
You're right. No one calls LF the best RB prospect in 10 years. Or the next AP. Or a once in a generation talent. No one does that.
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but this has been nuts
People seem to want this to be true more so than it is. 95% of the Bama fans I have seen talk about Coke have not anointed him the next Andrew Luck. Being the most talented QB Bama has had in years really isn't that tall of a task. Again, I'm real sorry people think Coker is gonna be good, I know it's scary since our last couple of QBs were just games mangers according to the majority of this board. If Coke is anything more than that y'all so fricked and you know it.
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Posted on 6/21/14 at 10:55 pm to Patton
Is he still new if he's had multiple starts?
Posted on 6/21/14 at 10:56 pm to Patton
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Not in love with the idea of him "locking down" the top spot.
Oh shut up Saban
Posted on 6/21/14 at 11:00 pm to Patton
I didn't act like it was all Bama fans, just those who have that line of thinking will be disappointed. I understand that there are plenty of rational ones here too. There's just so many of y'all here that you get to see some real pieces of work.
I don't know what to expect from Coker. I think the talent he's surrounded by and the success of the preceding Bama QBs under Saban tip the scales in his favor. But, he doesn't look like anything special in the film of his that is available and he has attempted less than 30 passes against FBS teams. We also have glowing comments from Jimbo Fisher and Randy Sanders, how valuable are those?
It seems like everybody knows somebody on the FSU staff on this site when you bring him up...but one of my best friends is on staff down there. He says he has the talent to be real nasty if he gets it together mentally.
I don't know what to expect from Coker. I think the talent he's surrounded by and the success of the preceding Bama QBs under Saban tip the scales in his favor. But, he doesn't look like anything special in the film of his that is available and he has attempted less than 30 passes against FBS teams. We also have glowing comments from Jimbo Fisher and Randy Sanders, how valuable are those?
It seems like everybody knows somebody on the FSU staff on this site when you bring him up...but one of my best friends is on staff down there. He says he has the talent to be real nasty if he gets it together mentally.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 11:02 pm to Patton
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You're right. No one calls LF the best RB prospect in 10 years. Or the next AP. Or a once in a generation talent. No one does that.
Good point. The big difference is the room for error between RB and QB.
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People seem to want this to be true more so than it is. 95% of the Bama fans I have seen talk about Coke have not anointed him the next Andrew Luck. Being the most talented QB Bama has had in years really isn't that tall of a task. Again, I'm real sorry people think Coker is gonna be good, I know it's scary since our last couple of QBs were just games mangers according to the majority of this board. If Coke is anything more than that y'all so fricked and you know it.
I'm done with this until September because that's the only way we'll really know anything. Keep on keeping on bruh.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 11:03 pm to LSUdm21
Respect. Good luck this fall
Posted on 6/21/14 at 11:04 pm to MenloDawg
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It seems like everybody knows somebody on the FSU staff on this site when you bring him up...but one of my best friends is on staff down there. He says he has the talent to be real nasty if he gets it together mentally.
It really is remarkable the amount of people with ties to the FSU staff on this site in the last few months.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 11:05 pm to LSUdm21
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It really is remarkable the amount of people with ties to the FSU staff on this site in the last few months.
It's ridiculous. And I thought I was special.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 11:31 pm to MenloDawg
I really think Coker is gonna tear it up this season. Seems to have loads of talent, and obviously he has the skill players around him. JonDavid11 had a good point about Mauk--he's losing all 3 of his big receivers from last year, so unfortunately, I think he's gonna slightly disappoint. I've been thinking that Thompson was gonna disappoint bc of the way he played at Mizzou, but MenloDawg had a good point about that, and Thompson apparently had a killer spring. So, I'm on the fence about Thompson....
Posted on 6/22/14 at 12:31 am to Mizzoumatt
The only thing that concerns me about Mauk and our offense for next season is losing our three WRs. We should have three senior starters, but none were starters last season. Sasser and Hunt were heavily involved in the offense and White is a transfer from Texas.
Losing a Waters at TE isn't worrying. He had 12 receptions in two seasons as the starter. Our TEs should be much more involved in the passing attack this season.
Our OL should be good, and we return two great RBs that both very productive last year.
I'd be way more concerned if we got some injuries on the O-line. If those guys stay relatively healthy the offense will be good.
Losing a Waters at TE isn't worrying. He had 12 receptions in two seasons as the starter. Our TEs should be much more involved in the passing attack this season.
Our OL should be good, and we return two great RBs that both very productive last year.
I'd be way more concerned if we got some injuries on the O-line. If those guys stay relatively healthy the offense will be good.
Posted on 6/22/14 at 9:28 am to thatdude1985
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really? you've never seen baseless hype? Look no further than your prized recruit.
Posted on 6/22/14 at 10:49 am to Prominentwon
Blake Sims is Bama's starter until told differently... Coker is an average QB given Great QB hype.. not a good mix. It will take time for a QB who has never started a college game of any sort to come in and have ANY expectations outside of what they can actually do on the field. Given all this hype Coker is not a good decision maker he threw 5 picks and no tds in mop up duty against bad teams scrubs. He's a 50% passer on his best day.. having a big arm and big body with some mobility is cool if you can hit players on time.
A lot of Bama fans are knocking Sims because of spring games and other reasons of course but Sims will start game one and it will be up to him to perform well enough to keep Bateman and Coker at bay... Blake's actual on the field play has been pretty good given the opportunity.
A bunch of "experts" have put their rep on the line like no time I've ever seen. A lot of stock for this kid who could not possibly live up to it... some say all he has to do is hand off the ball and hit a few passes.. every QB on Bama's team can do that.. Coker needs to be above average and he has yet to ever show he's anymore than that, ever in his life.. he was an average hs QB and he's been average so far in college. Below average if you put any stock in last year's mop up performances. I haven't seen anything about Coker to get me excited.. anyone who says they have is certainly lying.
A lot of Bama fans are knocking Sims because of spring games and other reasons of course but Sims will start game one and it will be up to him to perform well enough to keep Bateman and Coker at bay... Blake's actual on the field play has been pretty good given the opportunity.
A bunch of "experts" have put their rep on the line like no time I've ever seen. A lot of stock for this kid who could not possibly live up to it... some say all he has to do is hand off the ball and hit a few passes.. every QB on Bama's team can do that.. Coker needs to be above average and he has yet to ever show he's anymore than that, ever in his life.. he was an average hs QB and he's been average so far in college. Below average if you put any stock in last year's mop up performances. I haven't seen anything about Coker to get me excited.. anyone who says they have is certainly lying.
Posted on 6/22/14 at 10:59 am to LarrytheGolfer
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Coker has the most talent of any QB that Saban has had at Alabama.
Phillip Sims? Star Jackson? Cooper Bateman? Nah?
Listening to coach-speak will frick you up...
Jimbo is basically saying he had the best 2 QBs in CFB last year...So Coker was better than Manziel, Bortles, Bridgewater, McCarron, Marriot'a, Hundley, Boyd, Shaw, Marshall, Murray, and Mettenberger?! GTFOH.
Remember....COACHES said the battle was down to the wire between Cam Newton and Barrett Trotter.....yes, Barrett Trotter ALMOST beat out Cam Newton. Coach-Speak.
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