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re: SEC Network stuck on the sidelines?
Posted on 6/8/13 at 6:59 pm to buckwheat6105
Posted on 6/8/13 at 6:59 pm to buckwheat6105
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We're not talking about the "Mississippi State Bulldog Network" or the "Troy State Trojan" network. It's Texas...the nation's most profitable (by a large margin) college program in the country.
How do you not get it? UT pissed off the rest of their conference by doing this, and the ESECN will include all schools in the conference (even a TX team).
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Posted on 6/8/13 at 6:59 pm to buckwheat6105
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EXACTLY! Which is why i'm asking the question. Your point is spot on! So, to your point and to the fact that the SEC is in only three top 25 television markets (Atlanta, St. Louis and Houston) is ESPN taking a risk?
You forget Tampa (St.Pete/Sarasota), Orlando and Miami. There are 3 top 25 markets in Florida, which coincidentally has the most television sets among the SEC states.
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Posted on 6/8/13 at 7:09 pm to buckwheat6105
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And what SEC member institution is in DFW? If you're speaking of Texas A&M that's subjective. Also, Dallas is extremely fragmented in terms of sports, teams and conference affiliation (if you consider Dallas SEC country). Basically, a cable company will ask itself "how pissed are our Dallas customers going to be if we don't offer the SEC Network?"
As someone who was born and raised in Dallas there are enough Aggies, piggies, swamp kittens, other SEC alumni, and college football fans in general to demand it. It would be asinine to think otherwise.
Posted on 6/8/13 at 7:10 pm to bgator85
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You forget Tampa, Orlando and Miami. There are 3 top 25 markets in Florida, which coincidentally has the most television sets among the SEC states.
More than Texas?
Posted on 6/8/13 at 7:12 pm to TeLeFaWx
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More than Texas?
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There are about 19 million cable, satellite and telecom homes in SEC country. Florida is the big dog with approximately 5.2 million homes. No. 2 would be Texas with about 4.5 million. They make up a smidge more than half the homes in the 14-team conference
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Posted on 6/8/13 at 7:14 pm to bgator85
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You forget Tampa, Orlando and Miami. There are 3 top 25 markets in Florida, which coincidentally has the most television sets among the SEC states.
And Nashville, Birmingham, New Orleans, Memphis, & Jacksonville, Kansas City, Louisville, San Antonio & West Palm Beach which are all top 50 markets.
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Posted on 6/8/13 at 7:18 pm to JPLSU1981
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Posted on 6/8/13 at 7:24 pm to Bamatab
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Posted on 6/8/13 at 7:28 pm to buckwheat6105
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Your point is spot on! So, to your point and to the fact that the SEC is in only three top 25 television markets
Lots of fail here:
5. Dallas/Ft. Worth
8. Atlanta
10. Houston
13. Tampa/St. Petersburg
16. Miami/Ft. Lauderdale
19. Orlando/Daytona Beach/Melbourne
21. St. Louis
That's 7 top 25 markets in SEC states, brain donor.
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I'm not assuming there are/are not more SEC fans in these markets vs. ACC (Florida State and Miami) fans, dolphin fans, Bucs fans, Jacksonville Jags fans, etc.
1. They're not competing against the NFL on SATURDAY.
2. You're not assuming there's more fans than ACC fans? You might be right for basketball.
buckwheat HAS to be a sip.
This post was edited on 6/8/13 at 7:33 pm
Posted on 6/8/13 at 7:36 pm to buckwheat6105
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Tampa, Orlando and Miami - I'm not assuming there are/are not more SEC fans in these markets vs. ACC (Florida State and Miami) fans, dolphin fans, Bucs fans, Jacksonville Jags fans, etc.
It doesn't take any assumption, these are in an SEC state where the major flagship university of the state is an SEC school.
This post was edited on 6/8/13 at 7:37 pm
Posted on 6/8/13 at 7:36 pm to buckwheat6105
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I said top 25 markets, not top 50
My point was that there are more than enough tv markets in the SEC states to make the SECN more than profitable.
Posted on 6/8/13 at 7:38 pm to buckwheat6105
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So, knowing what TV rights ESPN doesn't already own (SEC Network is owned by ESPN Plus) the only games ESPN is getting back are the 14 PPV games each year and where do you think those games are going?
Espn owns every game not picked up by CBS. Trust me, in the early years especially, there will be primetime SEC games on the SECnw.
Bottom line, SEC network will blow all other conference networks out of the water. DWI. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see why. (Massive inventory, massive demand, and a unique setup with espn who owns basically all SEC inventory as well as a vested interest in the SECnw)
Will there be some crappy games on the SECnw? Sure. But there will also be some very marketAble games on the SECnw that will be impossible for providers to not carry.
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Posted on 6/8/13 at 7:41 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 6/8/13 at 7:41 pm to buckwheat6105
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So, knowing what TV rights ESPN doesn't already own (SEC Network is owned by ESPN Plus) the only games ESPN is getting back are the 14 PPV games each year and where do you think those games are going?
ESPN has already basically said that they will be willing to put any of their games on the SECN to try and boost demand for the channel. Just take a look at the recent attempt to put the Ole Miss/tu game on the LHN. The SECN/ESPN will do the same with their SEC games to apply more pressure in markets where cable providers are playing hard ball.
Posted on 6/8/13 at 7:43 pm to buckwheat6105
Without even looking, let me take a wild guess ... You're a big10 or ACC fan?
Posted on 6/8/13 at 7:46 pm to buckwheat6105
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I'm talking about the school's DMA, not cities that are located in the school's respective state.
Having lived in 4 of those cities, I can tell you that at least one SEC school in each one is considered priority coverage by their local media outlets.
Posted on 6/8/13 at 7:48 pm to JPLSU1981
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Posted on 6/8/13 at 7:52 pm to buckwheat6105
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Massive Inventory - they're picking up approximately 14 additional third tier football games.
Incorrect. Not sure how many different people have to tell you the same thing: ESPN owns EVERY single game not picked up by CBS....ALL OF THEM.
ESPN owns the SEC network.
Do you really not get it?
This post was edited on 6/8/13 at 7:56 pm
Posted on 6/8/13 at 7:53 pm to buckwheat6105
Cable providers have plenty of bandwidth to add channel.
The SEC Network will be very successful because the SEC fanbase is completely fricking rabid for ALL SEC sports. The football will be good enough to get other non-SEC markets on board.
Right now the SEC is the premier league in Football and Baseball. If we can pull our heads out of our asses in Basketball this could be nuts.
Then you gotta figure all the really unpopular sports might find a broadcast home there too.
The SEC Network will be very successful because the SEC fanbase is completely fricking rabid for ALL SEC sports. The football will be good enough to get other non-SEC markets on board.
Right now the SEC is the premier league in Football and Baseball. If we can pull our heads out of our asses in Basketball this could be nuts.
Then you gotta figure all the really unpopular sports might find a broadcast home there too.
Posted on 6/8/13 at 7:53 pm to buckwheat6105
There will be 40-something SEC football games per year on this network. 3 per Saturday.
Take your butthurt troll routine elsewhere.
Take your butthurt troll routine elsewhere.
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