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re: SEC football programs that have never been to an SEC championship game.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 1:34 am to KCM0Tiger
Posted on 5/14/15 at 1:34 am to KCM0Tiger
The ironic thing about Tennessee's SEC 2007 appearance in the SECCG game is that it was unsatisfactory to UT fans. Fans bitched that Fulmer and the Vols 'backed into' to the 2007 SECCG despite being ranked #2 at the time (don't think Mizzou was ranked that high).
ALL our losses were to ranked teams with Bama being the only loss that was truly unforgivable even though they were ranked. All losses were also all road games.
We entered the SECCG 10-2 and heavily favored over LSU. But credit LSU, they played one helluva game -- better than they had all year and took advantage of us thinking we'd waltz to Victory.
The myth that this team was bad is largely a myth. Even so, this team was not up to Vol fans' standards.
We were so goddamn spoiled that going to the SECCG and holding a #2 ranking at the time wasn't enough. BUT those are the standards of BIG SIX teams.
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As an aside:
QB Erik Ainge had always been a headcase (when he was good he was really good but when he wasn't he really wasn't) and by 2007 he'd developed a drug habit stemming from rx's he had from injuries which was largely unknown (I'm sure players knew). Unknown at the time was that he was also bipolar. When he was drafted, he was forced in 08 to enter rehab and also dx'd with bipolar.
RB Arian "Taco" Foster had a severe case of the fumbles. At one point, when the press asked him about it he decided he'd only speak in pterodactyl whenever asked about it (not kidding). What made his 'fumblitis' so bad is they came at the worst times possible.
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ALL our losses were to ranked teams with Bama being the only loss that was truly unforgivable even though they were ranked. All losses were also all road games.
We entered the SECCG 10-2 and heavily favored over LSU. But credit LSU, they played one helluva game -- better than they had all year and took advantage of us thinking we'd waltz to Victory.
The myth that this team was bad is largely a myth. Even so, this team was not up to Vol fans' standards.
We were so goddamn spoiled that going to the SECCG and holding a #2 ranking at the time wasn't enough. BUT those are the standards of BIG SIX teams.
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As an aside:
QB Erik Ainge had always been a headcase (when he was good he was really good but when he wasn't he really wasn't) and by 2007 he'd developed a drug habit stemming from rx's he had from injuries which was largely unknown (I'm sure players knew). Unknown at the time was that he was also bipolar. When he was drafted, he was forced in 08 to enter rehab and also dx'd with bipolar.
RB Arian "Taco" Foster had a severe case of the fumbles. At one point, when the press asked him about it he decided he'd only speak in pterodactyl whenever asked about it (not kidding). What made his 'fumblitis' so bad is they came at the worst times possible.
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This post was edited on 5/14/15 at 1:36 am
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 2:01 am to Prof
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the Vols 'backed into' to the 2007 SECCG despite being ranked #2 at the time
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We entered the SECCG heavily favored over LSU.
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(LSU) took advantage of us thinking we'd waltz to Victory.
Ummmmmmmmmmm I'm pretty sure none of these are accurate statements.
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RB Arian "Taco" Foster had a severe case of the fumbles. At one point, when the press asked him about it he decided he'd only speak in pterodactyl whenever asked about it (not kidding). What made his 'fumblitis' so bad is they came at the worst times possible.
But his most anti-clutch fumbles came in 2005, when he fumbled into the endzone against Bama and USC in back to back weeks.
Not '07
This post was edited on 5/14/15 at 2:04 am
Posted on 5/14/15 at 2:09 am to Cockopotamus
The only inaccurate statement is that I miscounted. We entered 9-3. And I apparently mixed up our ranking with 01. Sorry but I truly am numerically dyslexic and ten to mix up numbers when it flares up. There was no attempt to mislead on those counts.
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This post was edited on 5/14/15 at 2:15 am
Posted on 5/14/15 at 2:21 am to Prof
My main point of contention was UT going into the SECCG ranked #2 and by your own link they entered ranked #14, well below LSU's #5
Therefore I find it hard to believe that UT was "heavily favored" going in and that LSU simply "took advantage" of an overconfident UT team
I'm not saying 07 UT was bad, but your lionized version of them is absolutely false.
Therefore I find it hard to believe that UT was "heavily favored" going in and that LSU simply "took advantage" of an overconfident UT team
I'm not saying 07 UT was bad, but your lionized version of them is absolutely false.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 2:29 am to Cockopotamus
^^I explained why that errored occurred although you may have missed the edit. I didn't lionize them, particularly if you know how this team has been treated by fans, especially, but also non-fans. Ainge was frustrating as frick and Arian's fumbles were momentum swings (the one @UCLA was at the 1 freaking yard line and he also had bad fumbles at UF -- both loses). BUT my point was that they were a good team despite it all (10 wins and all road losses is nothing to sneeze at, especially, when those were ranked teams on the road). But a myth has been built up around them that they sucked.
The only SECE loss they had was to #3 UF at the Swamp. The unforgivable SEC loss was at Bama.
Kinda funny you said I lionized them when I actually said fans accused them of 'backing into the SECCG' as an example of the standards they and other Big 6 schools are held to - especially when they're not in a downcycle/slump. Fulmer got fired in part because merely appearing in the SECCG wasn't enough for fans. It would've been the same had we won.
ETA: One article addressing the 07 SECCG mentions 01 as the last appearance between LSU and UT:
Per 2007 SECCG wiki proper:
The only SECE loss they had was to #3 UF at the Swamp. The unforgivable SEC loss was at Bama.
Kinda funny you said I lionized them when I actually said fans accused them of 'backing into the SECCG' as an example of the standards they and other Big 6 schools are held to - especially when they're not in a downcycle/slump. Fulmer got fired in part because merely appearing in the SECCG wasn't enough for fans. It would've been the same had we won.
ETA: One article addressing the 07 SECCG mentions 01 as the last appearance between LSU and UT:
Per 2007 SECCG wiki proper:
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The 2007 SEC Championship Game was played on December 1, 2007 in the Georgia Dome in Atlanta, Georgia. The game determined the 2007 football champion of the Southeastern Conference. The LSU Tigers, winners of the Western division of the SEC, defeated the Tennessee Volunteers, who won the Eastern division, by a score of 21-14. This was the second time the two teams have met in the conference championship game.
The first time was in 2001 when LSU defeated Tennessee, 31-20. The loss knocked the Volunteers, ranked #2 at the time, out of the BCS National Championship Game which was played at the 2002 Rose Bowl.
This post was edited on 5/14/15 at 3:28 am
Posted on 5/14/15 at 8:49 am to tilco
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MSU 98 says hi
Yeah. That team was Only beating the eventual national champions in the 4th quarter during the seccg.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 8:56 am to Cockopotamus
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I'm not saying 07 UT was bad, but your lionized version of them is absolutely false.
Yep. While 07 UT may not had been the best to play in the title game, they definitely weren't the worst. They just lost by a TD and very well could've won. Although that LSU team may be one of the weakest to ever win a national title.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 10:57 am to CapstoneGrad06
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Actually Ole Miss is not the only program in the SEC West to have a 7-1 conference record and not make it to Atlanta. Alabama has done it twice in the last four years alone.
Very true, that is why I said "had" bc at that time Ole Miss was the first. Yours do not sting as bad due to all of your other recent hardware.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 10:59 am to Vols&Shaft83
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Vols&Shaft83
Well, we beat your shitty teams arse.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 11:58 am to Rebel Land Shark
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Yeah too bad we didn't get the luck of playing in the East
Pure comedy. I'm amazed you guys talk so much after that TCU game.
Posted on 5/15/15 at 1:29 pm to IAmReality
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No way the worst team ever was by far 1995 Arkansas by a mile. Look up their record and results. That was also the year they beat Alabama on a last second 4th and goal TD pass that was an obvious trap on replay, but hey, 95 was long before instant replay
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