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re: SEC enrollment

Posted on 3/28/17 at 8:11 am to
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 3/28/17 at 8:11 am to
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Alabama (37,665)

I graduated in 2010 and I think we still had less than 30k.
Posted by Whereisomaha
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 3/28/17 at 8:30 am to
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ole miss numbers are way over inflated by UMMC's enrollment. about 4500 of their "reported enrollment" are in Jackson, Mississippi. that's 2 hours from their main campus while Mississippi State's does not include their satallite. ETA: and probably 35% of those at UMMC are State undergrads who will never donate a penny to OM

IHL

MSU on campus 21,622
OM on campus 21,260

huge inflation
This post was edited on 3/28/17 at 8:33 am
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 3/28/17 at 8:32 am to
The Arkansas numbers are insane considering that not that long ago we were pumped because we had hit 14k in enrollment.
Posted by Whereisomaha
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 3/28/17 at 8:39 am to
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Ole Miss has 20,456 students in Oxford Bigger number includes satellite campuses and Medical School in Jackson.

Subtracting UMMC and the satellites from the total I get 19,755. Not sure where they get the 20,456 from.

Our growth over the past decade has been outstanding. My freshmen year at OM we had over 4K left on campus than MSU. We continue to have larger incoming freshmen classes while they continue to have larger incoming juco classes.
This post was edited on 3/28/17 at 8:46 am
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 3/28/17 at 8:40 am to
A&M had a crazy run like that a few decade back.

1966 - 9,429
1976 - 27,547
1986 - 36,570
While growth continued, it was at a slower rate
1996 - 41,892
2006 - 48,702
And now it spikes again
2016 - 66,175

We've grown 602% in 50 years.
Posted by Randolph Duke
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/28/17 at 9:17 am to
Claiming "to have grown 602% over 50 years" is a bit misleading. Texas A&M College Station is famous for playing games with regard to their enrollment to be able to counter the "UT's little brother" slur with "but look at our enrollment."

Does anyone (other than aggys) think a bigger enrollment is really a meaningful metric? Does anyone (other than aggys) believe TAMU College Station has an academic advantage over Harvard, UC Berkley or UT Austin because they claim an inflated enrollment figure? A soaring student/teacher ratio (over 23%), slipping in the USNWR academic rankings every year, declining institutional funding per student, one-third of all students completing two or more years of their education at a junior college and a 70% admission rate are not much to brag about.

The TAMU reported enrollment figure includes students who have never been within 12,000 miles of College Station, Texas as being on the College Station, Texas campus. The TAMU enrollment numbers include their Ft. Worth law school, the TAMU Galveston campus, the jihadi diploma mill in Doha, Qatar (that is located right next to a radicalized Islamic mosque) and five separate health science centers.

It also includes quite a number of part time students, over 11% of actual College Station enrollment.

A more accurate way of looking at the TAMU College Station enrollment is how the Texas legislature looks at it for funding purposes, which is on a full-time student equivalent basis. Under that metric, the latest figure for TAMU College Station enrollment is 50,386.

Seriously, how many other schools in the nation other than Texas A&M and the University of Phoenix consider as enrolled students, and grant diplomas with the school's name, to individuals who have never set foot on the campus, never sat in a classroom on campus for even a minute or even come within 12,000 miles of the campus in their life?

The actual numbers for TAMU College Station can be found on page 33 of this document: LINK
This post was edited on 3/28/17 at 9:19 am
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/28/17 at 9:23 am to
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Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 3/28/17 at 9:27 am to
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The actual numbers for TAMU College Station can be found on page 33 of this document: LINK




So is it 58,515 or 50,386?
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
12618 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 10:37 am to
Enrollment is a meaningful metric. I'd rather graduate into a large alumni base than a small one.

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Harvard, UC Berkley or UT Austin


One of these is not like the others
This post was edited on 3/28/17 at 10:38 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/28/17 at 10:52 am to
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Most of them out of state too.
Nothing like the state flagship school being mostly out of state.


I understand their reasoning for it, but I think it is hogwash
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37510 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 11:13 am to
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Does anyone (other than aggys) believe TAMU College Station has an academic advantage over Harvard, UC Berkley or UT Austin because they claim an inflated enrollment figure?


Our graduates earn more than yours.

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and a 70% admission rate are not much to brag about.


Means nothing. Admission and enrollment are two different things. 46% of Fall 2016 freshmen were top 10%.

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Under that metric, the latest figure for TAMU College Station enrollment is 50,386.


Actually the number is 60,979.

Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 3/28/17 at 11:17 am to
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Nothing like the state flagship school being mostly out of state.


I understand their reasoning for it, but I think it is hogwash




it has nothing to do with revenue and everything to do with having better students. Bama grants in-state or gives quite a bit for those out of state students to come. The state just doesnt have the population, so UA and AU get it from elsewhere
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50288 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 11:31 am to
Seems like there isn't a need for 2 big state schools. Why should Alabama be educating other states population?
Posted by HogFanfromHTown
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2015
3597 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 11:37 am to
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Im surprised that Alabama has more enrolled then us.

Out of state kids literally go there to say their school won a National Championship and the assumed crazy party culture that goes with being that good at football.
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 11:42 am to
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Why should Alabama be educating other states population?

Meanwhile, A&M is trying to become the fallback school for East Coast kids by heavily advertising in places like Washington, D.C.

Those poor, unsuspecting kids.


LINK
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 11:43 am to
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The Arkansas numbers are insane considering that not that long ago we were pumped because we had hit 14k in enrollment.


They need to chill with the growth, in my opinion. Raise standards.

Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 11:48 am to
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We even have a small satellite branch of the med school in Fayetteville with <300 students right now but it isn't included in the official enrollment figures.


I'd like to see them grow UAMS-Northwest into more of a main campus. Medical employment in the region is set to add something like 3,000 jobs in the next 5-6 years. Arkansas Children's Hospital-Northwest and the big expansion at Mercy in Rogers are just the main big ones happening.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 3/28/17 at 11:53 am to
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Out of state kids literally go there to say their school won a National Championship and the assumed crazy party culture that goes with being that good at football.


Two of my friends sent their kids to Alabama for just the above and both returned quickly with giant hangovers and little else to show for it.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94954 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:16 pm to
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it has nothing to do with revenue and everything to do with having better students. Bama grants in-state or gives quite a bit for those out of state students to come. The state just doesnt have the population, so UA and AU get it from elsewhere
Then decrease the enrollment. It makes absolutely no sense for a state funded school to not predominantly educate in state students.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:20 pm to
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It makes absolutely no sense for a state funded school to not predominantly educate in state students.


Who do you think has better Universities? Alabama or Mississippi?
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