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re: SEC coaches with 4 consecutive 2 loss seasons or less
Posted on 6/22/15 at 9:52 am to auburnphan23
Posted on 6/22/15 at 9:52 am to auburnphan23
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Vince Dooley would have been a mediocre coach without Herschel Walker.
and without cam Auburn would still be sitting at 57 years and counting since your last title. What's your point? You did have cam, and we did have herschel.
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Posted on 6/22/15 at 9:53 am to auburnphan23
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Vince Dooley would have been a mediocre coach without Herschel Walker.
Won 1 national championship and 3 SEC championships with Walker in 3 years. Won zero national championships and 3 SEC championships in 22 years without Herschel
Well, fortunately he did have Herschel Walker.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 9:55 am to WG_Dawg
The second part of the OP addresses the whole of SEC history, bud.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 9:57 am to Tornado Alley
The OP's list is now complete.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:03 am to Tornado Alley
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The OP's list is now complete.
Except why is the first part only from 1980 on?
Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:05 am to boxedlunch
I don't know why he set forth specific criteria, but he did. His lists are now factually complete.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:07 am to Tornado Alley
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I don't know why he set forth specific criteria, but he did. His lists are now factually complete.
Yeah, but all-time for one and not the other seems incomplete to me.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:12 am to bamasgot13
Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:21 am to boxedlunch
It was a thinly veiled attempt to troll Alabama and Georgia fans.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:32 am to boxedlunch
I wasn't going to research all of history for the first part. I know sec history pretty well since 1980.
The OP was off the top of my head without research. Missed Dooley and Neyland but otherwise good. Sorry uga, UT fans. Wasn't a damn troll attempt.
The OP was off the top of my head without research. Missed Dooley and Neyland but otherwise good. Sorry uga, UT fans. Wasn't a damn troll attempt.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:41 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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I wasn't going to research all of history for the first part. I know sec history pretty well since 1980.
SEC coaches with 4 consecutive 2 loss or less seasons, prior to 1980:
Frank Thomas
Harry Mehre
Allyn McKeen
Robert Neyland
John Vaught
Bear Bryant
Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:52 am to boxedlunch
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SEC coaches with 4 consecutive 2 loss or less seasons, prior to 1980:
Frank Thomas
Harry Mehre
Allyn McKeen
Robert Neyland
John Vaught
Bear Bryant
Frank Thomas had an 8 year stretch of 2 loss or less seasons (although the first year was the last year of the Southern Conference I think so technically a 7 year stretch in the SEC)
Bryant had a 9 year stretch of 2 loss or less seasons (1959-1967). He also had two additional separate 5 year stretches from 1971-1975 and again from 1977-1981. GOAT.
Bryant also won 5 consecutive conference championships (71-75) and two additional separate 3-peats from 1964-1966 and again from 1977-1979. GOAT.
This post was edited on 6/22/15 at 10:54 am
Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:58 am to auburnphan23
quote:And Auburn threw their whole bank account at him.
Vince Dooley would have been a mediocre coach
Posted on 6/22/15 at 11:11 am to bulldawger
quote:quote:And Chizick doesn't win the MNC without Cam.
Vince Dooley would have been a mediocre coach without Herschel Walker.
What's your point?
And is anyone arguing that Chizick is a great coach? I'm not old enough to remember Dooley (well, not THAT one), but I think it's fair to question how good some coaches are on gameday by suggesting they only won due to superior talent. However, that leads to the argument about whether gameday ability or recruiting ability is more important.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 11:22 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
How about 5 consecutive SEC championships in SEC history.
Bryant 71-75
Bryant 71-75
Posted on 6/22/15 at 11:25 am to auburnphan23
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Vince Dooley would have been a mediocre coach without Herschel Walker.
Part of being a good coach is getting the talent there. How good would Bear Bryant's (or any of the HOF SEC coaches) numbers have been with Vanderbilt's talent?
Posted on 6/22/15 at 11:27 am to auburnphan23
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Vince Dooley would have been a mediocre coach without Herschel Walker.
Pat Dye without Bo, Chizik (and, potentially, Gus) without Cam, Franchione without Tomlinson, etc, etc.
Every coach needs good players. The good players they get and succeed with lead to more good players. Cam helped Gus sell his system to recruits far better than Mustain did.
You could make this argument about virtually every coach.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 11:28 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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3 consecutive SEC championships in SEC history
Much harder now than before the SECCG came into place. Back in the day you could have co-champions. I'm not going to look it up, but I assume some of those listed are co-champions in some years.
I still think a team could go on a 3 year run and win 3 straight. And Spurrier winning 4 straight SECCG =
Posted on 6/22/15 at 11:36 am to auburnphan23
He was so mediocre we tried to hire him away from UGA.Lulz you're a moron and need to be voted off the island. 
Posted on 6/22/15 at 11:51 am to auburnphan23
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Vince Dooley would have been a mediocre coach without Herschel Walker.
So you are telling me coaches do better when they have really good players?
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