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Posted on 2/22/15 at 11:23 am to Hawgeye
lol @ sub 50 RPIs
Posted on 2/22/15 at 11:26 am to CGSC Lobotomy
Those aren't the teams aTm needs to worry about.
Xavier: 5-4 vs. top 50
UCLA: SOS 16 3-6 vs. top 50
Pitt: SOS 27 2-6 vs. top 50
Miami: 2-5 vs. top 50
Illinois: 3-4 vs. top 50
Purdue: 3-4 vs. top 50
Dayton is in at this point unless they get another bad loss. They have upcoming games against Rhode Island and Virginia Comm. coming up that would boost their RPI.
Xavier: 5-4 vs. top 50
UCLA: SOS 16 3-6 vs. top 50
Pitt: SOS 27 2-6 vs. top 50
Miami: 2-5 vs. top 50
Illinois: 3-4 vs. top 50
Purdue: 3-4 vs. top 50
Dayton is in at this point unless they get another bad loss. They have upcoming games against Rhode Island and Virginia Comm. coming up that would boost their RPI.
Posted on 2/22/15 at 11:27 am to WestCoastAg
The links posted on the first page are from Jerry Palm yesterday. He has aTm in "work to do" right now with your RPI falling 5 spots.
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This post was edited on 2/22/15 at 11:28 am
Posted on 2/22/15 at 1:00 pm to geauxtigs99
84/96 = 87.5%
87/96 = 90.6%
93/96 = 96.9%
Now the question is how many brackets had 2/3 or all 3 teams?
87/96 = 90.6%
93/96 = 96.9%
Now the question is how many brackets had 2/3 or all 3 teams?
Posted on 2/22/15 at 1:21 pm to TigerinUGA
quote:
I agree about the focus on quality wins, but I find it kind of funny experts talking about hopefully a team cracks the top 50 so they count as a quality win for the other team's resume.
So at the end of the year a win over team number 51 or 54 in the RPI is nothing, but boy beating team number 50, separated by hundredths of an RPI point is a big win!
Yeah, I tend to think the precise "RPI Top50" line is one used a lot more by commentators for talking points than that the committee is really going to weigh beating LSU that much differently if they are #50 instead of #51.
I don't think they'll be saying, for example, that Iona and Harvard at #49 and #50 are quality wins but LSU at #51 isn't.
At least, I like to think they are a bit smarter than that.
However, the other side of it is that Texas A&M does have the issue that LSU isn't much of a quality win to hang your hat on whether they are #45 or #52 unless LSU really moves up significantly.
In the end though, if Texas A&M goes 4-2 to close out, even without another quality win, I doubt they have a lot to worry about since there's going to more teams around them on the bubble that do worse and it seems they are already on the right side now.
The SEC isn't great this year but most of the middle to lower placed teams did well enough out of conference this year (for a change) that there seems to be more respect for the overall schedule.
Posted on 2/22/15 at 1:21 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Just looked up committee members. Alleva, Hollis and Muir all AD's of possible bubble teams. Could set up for some an interesting day selection Sunday.
Yes I know they are supposed to leave the room when discussing their respective teams.
Yes I know they are supposed to leave the room when discussing their respective teams.
Posted on 2/22/15 at 2:32 pm to Hawgeye
Jerry Palm is not the best bracketologist. A&M is in.
Posted on 2/22/15 at 3:24 pm to Aggieguy2019
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Jerry Palm is not the best bracketologist.
Palm strikes me as much more prescriptive rather than predictive.
Many others seem to be much better at predicting what the committee will actually do rather than basing the bracket off what they think the committee should do.
I think he's similar in football rankings.
This post was edited on 2/22/15 at 6:48 pm
Posted on 2/22/15 at 5:42 pm to Hawgeye
georgia, you have one job this week. beat ole miss. make it happen.
-because that helps lsu. tia
-because that helps lsu. tia
Posted on 2/22/15 at 5:43 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
quote:ahem
Old Dominion (20-6)
Quality wins - VCU
LSU
Posted on 2/22/15 at 5:44 pm to Hawgeye
Posted on 2/23/15 at 8:04 am to Hawgeye
Updated after games yesterday that moved some teams around.
Posted on 2/23/15 at 10:31 am to Hawgeye
It will be fun coming down the wire.
I guess it all depends on what's more important to the committee.
1. Is who you beat more important than who you lose to? A&M really gets hurt here. While they have no "bad" losses, they really have no good wins unless you consider sweeping LSU to be "good" wins. On the flip side Ole Miss and LSU have their share of bad losses, but they each have some good wins: Ole Miss (Cincinnati, @ Oregon, @ Ark, A&M), LSU (UMass, @ WVU, UGA, @ OM)
2. How important is RPI? Here (at the moment) A&M, OM and UGA are in good shape. LSU (at the moment) isn't.
3. Does margin of victory in your losses make a difference? A&M, OM, LSU and UGA all were within a possession or two of beating UK, so that's a wash. A&M hasn't lost to any bad teams, but a few of their losses have been ugly (10+ points)LSU has lost to some bad teams but they haven't lost a game by double-digits all year. OM has only lost one game by more than 10 points
4. Is how "hot" you are at the end important? Right now OM and A&M are fine. LSU is up and down with the possibility of finishing strong. UGA seems to be fading
I guess it all depends on what's more important to the committee.
1. Is who you beat more important than who you lose to? A&M really gets hurt here. While they have no "bad" losses, they really have no good wins unless you consider sweeping LSU to be "good" wins. On the flip side Ole Miss and LSU have their share of bad losses, but they each have some good wins: Ole Miss (Cincinnati, @ Oregon, @ Ark, A&M), LSU (UMass, @ WVU, UGA, @ OM)
2. How important is RPI? Here (at the moment) A&M, OM and UGA are in good shape. LSU (at the moment) isn't.
3. Does margin of victory in your losses make a difference? A&M, OM, LSU and UGA all were within a possession or two of beating UK, so that's a wash. A&M hasn't lost to any bad teams, but a few of their losses have been ugly (10+ points)LSU has lost to some bad teams but they haven't lost a game by double-digits all year. OM has only lost one game by more than 10 points
4. Is how "hot" you are at the end important? Right now OM and A&M are fine. LSU is up and down with the possibility of finishing strong. UGA seems to be fading
Posted on 2/23/15 at 10:35 am to Hawgeye
I would call is "in for now" as opposed to on the fence.
We "should" lose to ole miss and UK. We "should" beat AU and Mizz. It's perfectly reasonable to suggest we'll go 1-1 in the SECT.
That would put us at 20 wins and likely a top 30 RPI. Seems that would put us in.
We "should" lose to ole miss and UK. We "should" beat AU and Mizz. It's perfectly reasonable to suggest we'll go 1-1 in the SECT.
That would put us at 20 wins and likely a top 30 RPI. Seems that would put us in.
Posted on 2/23/15 at 10:40 am to Alt26
That's a good take.
I think LSU needs to get inside that top 50. I think aTm needs to beat a top 50 team.
If LSU can win and move up, that really helps aTm to get 2 top 50 wins.
I think LSU needs to get inside that top 50. I think aTm needs to beat a top 50 team.
If LSU can win and move up, that really helps aTm to get 2 top 50 wins.
Posted on 2/23/15 at 11:49 am to Hawgeye
Not last 
Posted on 2/23/15 at 11:59 am to Hawgeye
I'm by no means an expert on RPI, but how on Earth is UGA still so high? They're 17-9, 8-6 in conference. They don't have any marquee non-conference wins. They're 2-3 against top 50, 6-5 against top 100, and have three recent losses (2x to South Carolina and one to Auburn) that are about as bad as LSU's three bad losses (Mizzou, Miss State, Auburn).
By contrast, LSU is 18-8, 8-6 in conference. They're 4-4 against Top 50 (including heads up against UGA), 9-5 against Top 100, and have a nice non-conference win over West Virginia. I absolutely understand why LSU is at 53 and hanging on for dear life and probably needs to win the next 3 before Arky. But why isn't UGA in a similar position? I see them as a safe 9-seed in bracketology right now, and it doesn't make sense. What am I missing here?
By contrast, LSU is 18-8, 8-6 in conference. They're 4-4 against Top 50 (including heads up against UGA), 9-5 against Top 100, and have a nice non-conference win over West Virginia. I absolutely understand why LSU is at 53 and hanging on for dear life and probably needs to win the next 3 before Arky. But why isn't UGA in a similar position? I see them as a safe 9-seed in bracketology right now, and it doesn't make sense. What am I missing here?
Posted on 2/23/15 at 12:28 pm to geauxtigs99
Dance card update still has UGA and LSU solidly in the field, aTm with a big jump from 65'ish % to 95%. Biggest difference I saw their is Oregon with a huge win vs Utah bumped them from out to in at almost 100% and Ohio St out after Michigan loss.
I don't put much stock in these brackets yet, to much hoops left, but sure is nice to look at on a crappy Monday.
I don't put much stock in these brackets yet, to much hoops left, but sure is nice to look at on a crappy Monday.
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