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SEC Basketball - Overall Conference Strength

Posted on 3/15/16 at 9:10 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 3/15/16 at 9:10 am
Overall Conference RPI
2016 - 0.5496 (6th)
2015 - 0.5505 (6th)
2014 - 0.5516 (7th)
2013 - 0.5380 (9th)
2012 - 0.5629 (4th)
2011 - 0.5524 (6th)
2010 - 0.5580 (4th)




This post was edited on 3/15/16 at 9:12 am
Posted by tiger perry
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 3/15/16 at 9:16 am to
Been pretty bad for a while
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 3/15/16 at 9:16 am to
All I see is improvement from 2013
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 3/15/16 at 9:19 am to
quote:

All I see is improvement from 2013


Glass half full!
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 3/15/16 at 9:23 am to
Doesn't really matter ... committee members don't really care. The metric changes every year. It's the biggest bunch of bullshite, trying to figure out wtf the standards are, from season to season.

Best thing to do is just win ... and bad losses are worse than good wins. There is no balance in what the NCAA selection process has become.

The SEC gets a bad rap in men's basketball. Warranted or not.

Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 3/15/16 at 9:25 am to
quote:

Doesn't really matter ... committee members don't really care. The metric changes every year. It's the biggest bunch of bullshite, trying to figure out wtf the standards are, from season to season.



It probably helps when you play some good teams in OOC
Posted by MsState of mind
State of Denial
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 3/15/16 at 9:26 am to
Scrooster while I don't disagree with you Strength of Schedule has always been a HUGE factor on who gets in and who is out. It screwed us many a years. If you want to be a tourney team schedule like one. Don t pint to strength of Record, whatever the hell that is, to back you up.
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
10616 posts
Posted on 3/15/16 at 9:43 am to
But didn't Carolina schedule against some pretty good programs that just happened tank this year? Not sure when they made the contracts but normally DePaul, Memphis and St. Johns are pretty good at basketball.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68322 posts
Posted on 3/15/16 at 9:47 am to
quote:

2013 - 0.5380 (9th)



Man, that was bad.


quote:

2016 - 0.5496 (6th)
2015 - 0.5505 (6th)
2014 - 0.5516 (7th)


And we're continuing to get a little worse each year since we got slightly better in 2014.
Posted by thefloydian
Member since Dec 2012
4771 posts
Posted on 3/15/16 at 9:48 am to
What the frick is strength of record? Strength of schedule adjusted for wins/losses?
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 3/15/16 at 9:50 am to
quote:

Scrooster while I don't disagree with you Strength of Schedule has always been a HUGE factor on who gets in and who is out. It screwed us many a years. If you want to be a tourney team schedule like one. Don t pint to strength of Record, whatever the hell that is, to back you up.


When Martin scheduled the teams ... it was a solid schedule, as already mentioned above.

The graphic I posted was directly from ESPN based upon criterion quoted and provided by the selection committee who they had just interviewed, (the chairman of the committee) ... something they used, in their process, when making their decisions. It is not an arbitrary rating.

ETA: Additionally, SCAR also beat, head-to-head, three of those teams in the right column that were selected by the committee.

This is what has caused many of the pundits, beat writers, et al., to question the process. This year was the worst ever in terms of no rhyme or reason.

South Carolina's schedule was not nearly as "weak" as others who were selected, with lesser records and lesser achievements.

The only explanation is disrespect for the SEC.
This post was edited on 3/15/16 at 9:55 am
Posted by TigerTalker16
Columbia,MO
Member since Apr 2015
11533 posts
Posted on 3/15/16 at 9:56 am to
It's a shame we can't pull out weight and help the conference out like we were supposed to when we joined.

Hopefully we get our shite together soon.
Posted by thefloydian
Member since Dec 2012
4771 posts
Posted on 3/15/16 at 9:57 am to
quote:

The only explanation is disrespect for the SEC.


You act like that isn't warranted. SEC basketball is a joke.
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 3/15/16 at 9:58 am to
quote:

What the frick is strength of record? Strength of schedule adjusted for wins/losses?


I do not know exactly ... but yes, it would seem to be as you might guess. It was difficult to discern.

The numbers were provided to ESPN by the selection committee as something the selection committee used to determine their selections. And when confronted on the numbers above, the committee chairman stumbled and bumbled and never answered the obvious question.
Posted by TexasAg13
San Antonio de Béxar
Member since Jul 2013
5815 posts
Posted on 3/15/16 at 9:58 am to
Thank goodness the conference has Kentucky and A&M to keep the conference afloat.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 3/15/16 at 9:59 am to
Strength of Record is supposed to be a metric that ranks you based on your wins and losses, giving higher value to beating good teams, lower to beating bad teams, etc. It seems to the untrained eye a lot like RPI.

It's the same metric they used in football a lot.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 3/15/16 at 10:00 am to
quote:

DePaul, Memphis and St. Johns


They could have easily scheduled some more teams in case something like this happened. It really isn't that hard.
Posted by SurfTide
San Diego, CA
Member since Nov 2015
1658 posts
Posted on 3/15/16 at 10:00 am to
It really is embarrassing.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37651 posts
Posted on 3/15/16 at 10:02 am to
quote:

You act like that isn't warranted. SEC basketball is a joke.


I'm not acting like anything ... I'm stating, without a hint of fricking doubt, that it shouldn't matter what fricktards think of the SEC as a conference. It obviously doesn't when it comes to other conferences ... so why should it when it comes to the SEC?

Each team, if what everyone is saying is correct, is judged solely on it's own individual accomplishments.

SCAR did enough to qualify - yet, admittedly, they also screwed themselves with the bad losses towards the end. No one is denying that. As far as the continued claim that the rest of the schedule had an adverse affect on what happened ... it's bullshite.
Posted by thefloydian
Member since Dec 2012
4771 posts
Posted on 3/15/16 at 10:02 am to
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Thank goodness the conference has Kentucky and A&M to keep the conference afloat.



You only had a winning SEC record 2 of those years.

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