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re: Schedule thread...enter at own risk.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 5:44 pm to therick711
Posted on 3/11/14 at 5:44 pm to therick711
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That's why no one cares about you playing Tech, from non-UGA fans, the other conference members, the ADs, the coaches, and the commissioner all don't care about that.
Florida, South Carolina, and Kentucky care. Everybody else should care. History, tradition, and rivalries are a big part of why people like to watch college football.
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 5:46 pm to BamaDude06
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The SEC needs to focus more on preserving its own history with games like UT/Bama and UGA/AU than UGA/GT or UF/FSU
The SEC is a group of schools that should each be focused on preserving their own history. That's all UGA is doing in fighting against the 9-game schedule.
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 5:47 pm
Posted on 3/11/14 at 5:46 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Florida, South Carolina, and Kentucky care.
Florida doesn't care, USC will play Clemson no matter what because they aren't gaping vaginas, and Kentucky is much more worried about keeping its rivalry with State then it is about getting cocksmacked by Louisville (if their dozen or so fans can even be bothered to care about football scheduling).
See also 4 out of 14 is a loss.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 5:48 pm to therick711
Clemson and South Carolina are actually required to play each other.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 5:49 pm to therick711
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Florida doesn't care,
Florida doesn't care about playing FSU? News to me
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USC will play Clemson
That's like us playing Tech. The issue with us playing Clemson isn't about fear. The SEC west teams (sans LSU) are the ones who need the conference's help to schedule 10 BCS level games.
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See also 4 out of 14 is a loss.
You said no one cares. That's not true
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 6:21 pm
Posted on 3/11/14 at 6:00 pm to Crowknowsbest
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You said no one cares. That's not true
Those teams do not care about Georgia's game. That is a fact.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 6:00 pm to BamaDude06
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Nine game schedule only reduces the number of home games if you schedule away non conference games the same year that you have 5 away conference games.
3 home non con games, 5 away conference games, 4 home conference games = 7 home games, which is what most SEC programs are doing these days.
The next year you would have 5 home conference games, 4 away conference games, meaning you can schedule an away conference game and two home games and still have 7 home games.
it reduces by 50% your flexibility when it comes to scheduling home and road games of interest.
for teams that actually play real teams out of conference (which I wish was everyone) this is an issue for scheduling. You don't want more years where you are shot one home/money game. That means the school generally has to choose between bringing in a rent a win midmajor for the home gates or playing a neutral site team if you have a favorable financial arrangement (if you are a major team like a LSU or Bama able to play a major opener in Jerryworld or Atlanta).
Posted on 3/11/14 at 6:03 pm to molsusports
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That means the school generally has to choose between bringing in a rent a win midmajor for the home gates or playing a neutral site team if you have a favorable financial arrangement (if you are a major team like a LSU or Bama able to play a major opener in Jerryworld or Atlanta).
Or you schedule home and home games, where your teams road game is on years where you only have 4 conference road games.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 6:03 pm to therick711
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Those teams do not care about Georgia's game. That is a fact.
OK. We have a shared interest in protecting our scheduling flexibility for our schools, since we all have a non-conference rivalry game. Is that better?
Posted on 3/11/14 at 6:05 pm to parkjas2001
I am ready
Posted on 3/11/14 at 6:05 pm to Crowknowsbest
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OK. We have a shared interest in protecting our scheduling flexibility for our schools, since we all have a non-conference rivalry game. Is that better?
As long as you acknowledge no one cares about Georgia playing Georgia Tech specifically, you are free to think whatever you want about the other schools.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 6:07 pm to BamaDude06
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Or you schedule home and home games, where your teams road game is on years where you only have 4 conference road games.
1) you left out the part about reducing your schedule flexibility by 50%. that means fewer interesting out of conference opponents.
2) there will be a tradeoff with fewer good teams played out of conference period. more and more teams will play absolutely no one out of conference - they will just argue with a 9 game conference slate there's nothing to prove and no incentive to play another challenging game.
I've got a laundry list of objections to a 9 game slate (see the previous page). They can just go to the roommate switch proposal instead of fricking things up even further.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 6:10 pm to molsusports
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1) you left out the part about reducing your schedule flexibility by 50%. that means fewer interesting out of conference opponents.
Not really. You play 2-3 terrible uninteresting opponents every year. Replace one of them with an interesting OOC.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 6:17 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Y'all are the ones who need the conference's help to schedule 10 BCS level games.
Words fail me. Actually you can probably count on one hand...and have fingers left over...the number of times UGA has played a more difficult schedule than LSU.
LSU has opened with Oregon, TCU, and Wisconsin in successive years. We don't take a back seat to anyone in this conference as far as playing tough OOC games.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 6:19 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
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Words fail me. Actually you can probably count on one hand...and have fingers left over...the number of times UGA has played a more difficult schedule than LSU.
LSU has opened with Oregon, TCU, and Wisconsin in successive years. We don't take a back seat to anyone in this conference as far as playing tough OOC games.
I was speaking more to the SEC west in general. LSU generally does a really good job. I should have clarified
Posted on 3/11/14 at 6:20 pm to Crowknowsbest
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LSU generally does a really good job. I should have clarified
Ah got you. My bad, carry on.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 6:27 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Not really. You play 2-3 terrible uninteresting opponents every year. Replace one of them with an interesting OOC.
Schools aren't doing that for obvious reasons. They used to play 2-3 real OOC per year when there were only 5-6 conference games per year. It has gotten so bad that fans of programs actually BRAG about playing a single "BCS" program out of conference per year because these are either idiot fans who will defend anything or because they are young enough and/or uninformed enough to not realize this is a regression for the SEC (and the other major conferences).
Personally I'd rather have an 8 game conference schedule with 1-2 interesting out of conference opponents than a 9 game conference schedule with 0-1 interesting out of conference opponents. IMO we know teams will play fewer good out of conference games with more scheduled conference games. We know this because we've seen this already in effect and we know this because schools care more about self interest and making money than they do about entertainment.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 6:40 pm to molsusports
While some teams might not schedule any decent OOC games with a 9 game conference schedule at first, they will eventually if the playoff committee is as serious as SOS as they claim to be.
The Big 12 and Pac 12 already play 9 game schedules. The B1G is starting in 2018 I believe. The ACC is discussing it too. If the ACC adopts it the SEC will be all but forced to go to 9 games.
The Big 12 and Pac 12 already play 9 game schedules. The B1G is starting in 2018 I believe. The ACC is discussing it too. If the ACC adopts it the SEC will be all but forced to go to 9 games.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 6:41 pm to BamaDude06
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The Big 12 and Pac 12 already play 9 game schedules. The B1G is starting in 2018 I believe. The ACC is discussing it too. If the ACC adopts it the SEC will be all but forced to go to 9 games.
Well said, and I agree.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 6:45 pm to BamaDude06
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If the ACC adopts it the SEC will be all but forced to go to 9 games.
Partnership with the ACC seems optimal imho. Non-conference games for everyone without having to play 9 conference games.
I'm sure everyone can get behind that
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