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re: Safety in the Sugar Bowl
Posted on 1/5/11 at 10:20 am to WG_Dawg
Posted on 1/5/11 at 10:20 am to WG_Dawg
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It was the correct call based on the fact there was no whistle. In a better officiated scenario (IMO), they should've blown the whistle early and given him forward progress. But since there was no whistle, the safety call was correct.
That's just dumb. His forward progress was stopped at the 2. THe far side ref can even be see marking forward progress there. I've never seen this call made before EVER. The idea that just "because the whistle wasn't called" that forward progress should not count is laughable. In the future, all defensive players should push runners backwards into the endzone, then let them go, and then tackle them for a safety. Your argument is like saying you can pick up an incomplete pass or fumble after the player is down, so long as the ref doesn't blow the whistle. They play is over when the runner is down, not when the whistle is blown. Similarly, it SHOULD be (if it isn't) that the play is over when forward progress is stopped. That's the way I've always seen it, and I've been watching football for 25 years.
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Posted on 1/5/11 at 10:21 am to BamaDan
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He broke free again, but then arky pushed him into the end zone from what I remember
I'm pretty sure Leon aka "Bozo the clown hair*" hit him around the 2-3 yard line. He pushed him back into the endzone, where the RB broke free and took a step or two forward and then got tackled in the endzone.
Someone said it, but since there was no whistle blown after the original contact and he got free and went forward again, I guess by rule, that's why the safety was called.
Definitely a call that could have gone both ways very easily.
*If I had hair like that I'd do it to probably
This post was edited on 1/5/11 at 10:23 am
Posted on 1/5/11 at 10:22 am to Funky Tide 8
Exactly. Anyone who says differently doesn't follow football very closely.
Posted on 1/5/11 at 10:22 am to kage
I don't really agree with "he broke free" - the dude stopped tackling him. But Herron did keep his feet churning and moved a bit.
Posted on 1/5/11 at 10:23 am to Aubie83
That was a terrible call just like the one against Kodi Burns in the LSU game.
Posted on 1/5/11 at 10:23 am to bamaboy87
The ref's concured, The whistle did not blow early, and the runner broke loose and tried to gain yardage,which starts the forward progess over at that time. So his forward progress never left the endzone.
Come on guys, it does not take an genius to understand the runner broke loose and was trying to regain lost yardage.
LOw
Come on guys, it does not take an genius to understand the runner broke loose and was trying to regain lost yardage.
LOw
Posted on 1/5/11 at 10:23 am to bomber77
If you look at the other official (not the one discussing with the head ref), he is marking it around the 2 just in case.
I thought there were several pass interference non-calls on both sides.
One play that stands out is when OSU had the ball 3rd and 10 in the 4th. The RE for Arky sprints across the line, the LE flinches, the OSU RT jumps early. They call false start. I thought that should have been offsides. 3rd and 15 is wayyyyy different than 3rd and 5.
I thought there were several pass interference non-calls on both sides.
One play that stands out is when OSU had the ball 3rd and 10 in the 4th. The RE for Arky sprints across the line, the LE flinches, the OSU RT jumps early. They call false start. I thought that should have been offsides. 3rd and 15 is wayyyyy different than 3rd and 5.
Posted on 1/5/11 at 10:25 am to gabster121
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This post was edited on 1/5/11 at 10:28 am
Posted on 1/5/11 at 10:25 am to graychef
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One play that stands out is when OSU had the ball 3rd and 10 in the 4th. The RE for Arky sprints across the line, the LE flinches, the OSU RT jumps early. They call false start. I thought that should have been offsides. 3rd and 15 is wayyyyy different than 3rd and 5.
Yup - that was horribly missed.
I saw OSU get away with a few holds though I though.
I think it was poorly officiated on both sides.
Posted on 1/5/11 at 10:26 am to gabster121
It's really not that hard people. He broke free, and got tackled again in the endzone. If he had have just fell down, or stayed locked up with the arky defenders for one more second, the whistle blows and there is no safety. But he broke free and got tackled in the endzone. How hard is that to understand?
Posted on 1/5/11 at 10:28 am to bomber77
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I thought the officials should have called forward progress and stopped the play
they would have if he wouldn't have broken the tackle in the endzone and tried to gain forward progress again. how could you not see that?
Posted on 1/5/11 at 10:29 am to Brettesaurus Rex
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Safety in the Sugar Bowl
Should have not been a safety. Same exact thing happened in the Auburn-LSU game and it wasn't called. I wonder why.
1. Whistle hadn't blown
2. OSU player disengaged from the Arkansas player that had initially tried to stop him.
3. RB continued to run laterally and was tackled by different Hog players.
It was clearly a safety. The RB could have broken the actual tackle, went the distance, and the play would have counted.
Posted on 1/5/11 at 10:29 am to graychef
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One play that stands out is when OSU had the ball 3rd and 10 in the 4th. The RE for Arky sprints across the line, the LE flinches, the OSU RT jumps early. They call false start. I thought that should have been offsides.
Yep. That was a bad call too...
Posted on 1/5/11 at 10:32 am to bamaboy87
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What's odd is that I really just don't give a shite
What’s odder is that you post in a thread that you don't give a shite about.
Posted on 1/5/11 at 10:43 am to Choctaw Hog
Did Herron Break the Tackle or did the guy stop tackling him? To me that is the question as it almost seemed like the Arky player knew that if he stopped tackling him, that he had help who would then be able to tackle him in the end zone.
I don't know why defenses don't practice this on first downs and near the goal line like this.
I don't know why defenses don't practice this on first downs and near the goal line like this.
Posted on 1/5/11 at 10:43 am to Oklahoma Sooners
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Atrocious officiating last night.
not so fast my friend... there were plenty of calls that did not get called that benefitted both teams i.e. pass interference, holding, and the late hitting. aside from the cliche' that these could be called on everyplay in any game...in this game they were blatant.
Posted on 1/5/11 at 10:46 am to BamaDan
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He broke free again, but then arky pushed him into the end zone from what I remember.
No he got pushed into the endzone then broke free...I agree there were several bad calls, or lack of...I have just heard alot about this safety and after rewatching I think it was a legit safety...not that it matters the game is over...
This post was edited on 1/5/11 at 10:50 am
Posted on 1/5/11 at 10:47 am to Aubie83
It was a bad call and it definitely SHOULD NOT have been called a safety.
Auburnites would make terrible officials. That was proven when every one of you tractor-driving backwaters said there was nothing illegal with this mugging.
Auburnites would make terrible officials. That was proven when every one of you tractor-driving backwaters said there was nothing illegal with this mugging.
Posted on 1/5/11 at 10:52 am to HonoraryCoonass
MAke up call for Fannin "TD non fumble"
Posted on 1/5/11 at 10:52 am to Aubie83
We should be arguing whether or not the officials should have blown the whistle, not the safety. The safety was easily the correct call.
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