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re: Saban: "It Was a Great Hit"
Posted on 10/25/16 at 7:54 am to Aggie Fishfinder
Posted on 10/25/16 at 7:54 am to Aggie Fishfinder
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Nope. He just benefits from selective enforcement.
He should apologize for the referees?
Does Sumlin apologize when a bad call is made in A&M's favor?
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Posted on 10/25/16 at 7:57 am to narddogg81
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I like how you pick a still to try and make it look like the crown, and yet you include the gif that makes it clear it wasnt the crown but the side of the helmet. You should have stuck with the still
Looks like the crown of the helmet in the still and the gif. I think it was a bad call....or no call. However, I don't ever remember a coach apologizing because the referees didn't call a penalty. It's just silly to expect it.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 8:53 am to Pecker
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He doesn't make the rules. He doesn't enforce the rules.
No one enforces the rules on the field against Bama.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 8:58 am to Spaceball 1
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Hits like that one are going to end football.
No. Whining, liberal pussies are going to end football.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 8:59 am to Spaceball 1
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Hits like that one are going to end football.
It already did at aTm
Posted on 10/25/16 at 10:01 am to AggieLandman
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As you can see in the gif below, Wilson's hit definitely meets additional factor #3, leading with helmet to attack head or neck are, and arguably meets number 4 as well, as you can see his head lower right before making contact with Noil's face.
It was definitely targeting, exactly as spelled out in black and white in rule 9-1-3.
Looks to me like he was aiming for the body and Noil stepped into the hit. Also, that's not the crown of the helmet.
What's painfully obvious is the huge amount of fear coming from the L5U fans. Let's just hope Guise can keep all his teeth when Mack de-cleats his arse.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 10:13 am to 14&Counting
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"I think that the way people are going no-huddle right now, that at some point in time, we should look at how fast we allow the game to go in terms of player safety," Saban said on today's SEC teleconference.
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This where Nick tells you pussies to grow a pair
I guess he should wait for his to drop before suggesting others "grow a pair".
Posted on 10/25/16 at 10:15 am to justausedcarguy
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Most people that complain about the rules don't actually know the rules. And if you rely on Verne and Gary for rule confirmation you probably don't need to be posting on a SEC board
This x 1,000.
Gary Danielson yapped about how Terrence Cody should have been assessed a live ball penalty for taking his helmet off after the blocked FG in the Alabama-Tenn game in 2009 and maybe the Vols should have gotten another kick, and ignorant Vol fans ate it up...even after being shown clearly in the book that it would have been a dead ball penalty assessed after the play even though it happened before the whistle.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 10:17 am to Kafkas father
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Also, that's not the crown of the helmet.
I've been arguing this all along. The entire white stripe of the helmet is clearly visible throughout the hit. If he had led with the crown, at some point you wouldn't be able to see the stripe.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 10:26 am to LSU GrandDad
It's not arrogant. It is not or it should not be targeting any more than the helmet to helmet against OJ in the end zone. Someone running the ball is not defenseless. He saw the hit coming just couldn't make him miss. You want to call it in a QB getting hit in the BACK of the helmet and he can't see it coming. A player making article not looking or a receiver going up for a catch fine. But you cannot call that on a player running the ball down the field be it a receiver, returner or RB. I want even upset about the Damien Harris hit. You're always taught head on a swivel.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 10:26 am to narddogg81
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I like how you pick a still to try and make it look like the crown, and yet you include the gif that makes it clear it wasnt the crown but the side of the helmet. You should have stuck with the still
Same as my point above. From the beginning of the hit all the way through, the entire white stripe on top of the helmet is clearly visible and unobscured. If it had been the crown, at some point the white stripe would be obscured. That's why it wasn't reviewed...because the replay officials (a) aren't blind, (b) know the rules, and (c) aren't opposing fans.
This post was edited on 10/25/16 at 10:28 am
Posted on 10/25/16 at 10:39 am to BamaGradinTn
quote:so you clearly don't understand what the crown of the helmet is
I've been arguing this all along. The entire white stripe of the helmet is clearly visible throughout the hit. If he had led with the crown, at some point you wouldn't be able to see the stripe
Posted on 10/25/16 at 10:44 am to Guava Jelly
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Such a horse shite no call. I like how Birmingham decided to change the rule as the game was going on to protect bama
Posted on 10/25/16 at 10:49 am to joeyb147
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so you clearly don't understand what the crown of the helmet is
Jeez, what the hell do you think it is? Where his chin strap snaps? The ear hole?
Don't be stupid.
"No player shall target and initiate contact against an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul."
This post was edited on 10/25/16 at 10:55 am
Posted on 10/25/16 at 10:58 am to BamaGradinTn
quote:i know what it is. you clearly do not
Jeez, what the hell do you think it is?
quote:ironic
Don't be stupid.
here, a quote directly from Rogers Redding, the association's football secretary-rules editor
quote:now try to argue with official word from the NCAA of what constitutes the crown of the helmet
“It seems that some officials have been interpreting the crown of the helmet to mean the tip-top portion of the helmet only. We want everyone to understand that the crown of the helmet starts from the area above the face mask to the dome of the helmet.”
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The entire white stripe of the helmet is clearly visible throughout the hit. If he had led with the crown, at some point you wouldn't be able to see the stripe.
quote:... do you think the crown of the helmet is on the side??????????
Where his chin strap snaps? The ear hole?
This post was edited on 10/25/16 at 11:06 am
Posted on 10/25/16 at 11:06 am to joeyb147
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helmet starts from the area above the face mask
This didn't make contact.
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the dome of the helmet
Nor do you have a definition of this.
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now try to argue with official word from the NCAA of what constitutes the crown of the helmet
I'm not. You are.
SEC officials on the field, SEC replay officials at SEC headquarters, and let's not forget that Rogers Redding was an official in which conference? Show me a quote where a higher authority says the non-call was incorrect. Until you can do that, this is just the blabbering of opinionated fans and not based on fact.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 11:08 am to BamaGradinTn
quote:quote:This didn't make contact.
helmet starts from the area above the face mask
quote:quote:Nor do you have a definition of this.
the dome of the helmet
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SEC officials on the field, SEC replay officials at SEC headquarters
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It seems that some officials have been interpreting the crown of the helmet to mean the tip-top portion of the helmet only.
This post was edited on 10/25/16 at 11:11 am
Posted on 10/25/16 at 11:15 am to Whens lunch
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Targeting and Initiating Contact With the Crown of the Helmet (Rule 9-1-3)
No player shall target and initiate contact against an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul.
From the same rule
Note 1: Target—to take aim at an opponent for purposes of attacking with an apparent intent that goes beyond making a legal tackle or a legal block or playing the ball
This is why it wasn't flagged on the field or imposed from the replay officials.
He wasn't aiming for Noils head.
Macks face mask and eat hold end up on Noils number=He looked the tackle in.
It was incidental helmet to helmet contact in the midst of a good tackle.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 12:33 pm to YouAre8Up
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YouAre8Up
Typical gump response.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 12:36 pm to 14&Counting
It was a great hit, but it was also targeting and should have been called. Saban has no reason to apologize though. The refs and the replay booth should be apologizing
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