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re: S. Carolina fans: Lattimore Question
Posted on 8/23/12 at 12:00 am to CockRocket
Posted on 8/23/12 at 12:00 am to CockRocket
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I think it was said to show that Bama fans shouldn't talk about running ML into the ground when he averaged just an extra carry a game, they sound hypocritical. Kinda like Arky fans. DMAC averaged 25 carries a game his last year.
- It's not hypocritical if you also think TR was used too much last year.
- It's also worth pointing out that over their college career there is a big discrepancy for carries per game. Basing your arguments on only a few games is faulty.
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Posted on 8/23/12 at 12:01 am to CockRocket
Arkansas over-ran all the RBs back in the Nutt days. DMAC (ankle..i think), Felix Jones (Hamstring), and Hillis (broken vertebrae) all sustained injuries while here. All I'm saying is South Carolina could diversify that risk a little bit more. But...you do what you have to do to win games and get that fan revenue.
Posted on 8/23/12 at 12:10 am to bona fide
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- It's also worth pointing out that over their college career there is a big discrepancy for carries per game. Basing your arguments on only a few games is faulty.
Didn't you say something about Lattimore having 40 carries a game??
Yeah that was ONCE. He has only had 10 games of 20 or more carries. He will not get near that this year. He isn't being run into the ground like some of you say he is. He wasn't even carrying the ball when he tore the ACL. It was a freak injury that could've happened to anyone.
Posted on 8/23/12 at 12:16 am to CockRocket
Damn our backs get 5-10 a piece
Posted on 8/23/12 at 12:17 am to dreaux
Posted on 8/23/12 at 12:19 am to CockRocket
quote:That is why I remembered it differently. Latt got rolled up from behind/side didn't he.
It was a freak injury that could've happened to anyone.
Wasn't blocking on the edge or something on a trick play? I think this is what I remembered as a "blowout"..it wasnt a blowout, it was just a play that he shouldn't have been involved in. I swear I remember something funky about the play...was it Latt lined up as WR?
Posted on 8/23/12 at 12:20 am to CockRocket
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Didn't you say something about Lattimore having 40 carries a game??
He had three games in only 1.5 yrs with 37 or more carries and also had 8 receptions in those three games.
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He will not get near that this year.
Hope not, I like to see him do well.
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He isn't being run into the ground like some of you say he is.
Yes he was. This same discussion happened on here before the injury, I stated the case then. Don't want to rehash all of it now. I said then(preinjury) that as his father I would have a talk with Spurrier.
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He wasn't even carrying the ball when he tore the ACL. It was a freak injury that could've happened to anyone.
The cumulative beating his body has taken absolutely has an affect. There is a reason RBs don't last long. It's not because they carried the ball 35 times one game, it's because of the beating they take over time. Many RBs get injuries when not carrying the ball.
Posted on 8/23/12 at 12:27 am to bona fide
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Hope not, I like to see him do well.
He does well no matter how many carries a game he gets. So you should be happy.
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Yes he was. This same discussion happened on here before the injury, I stated the case then. Don't want to rehash all of it now. I said then(preinjury) that as his father I would have a talk with Spurrier.
Well good golly molly, aren't you special? Why didn't you call up Spurrier and let him know you're feelings?! You could've saved him bro!
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The cumulative beating his body has taken absolutely has an affect. There is a reason RBs don't last long. It's not because they carried the ball 35 times one game, it's because of the beating they take over time. Many RBs get injuries when not carrying the ball.
No shite. So why do you care if he's had only 3 games of 37 carries.
All in all I'm pretty sure Spurrier and the rest of our coaching staff is completely more capable of making decisions on how many carries he gets than anyone on here.
Posted on 8/23/12 at 12:45 am to CockRocket
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He does well no matter how many carries a game he gets. So you should be happy.
I like him but he's overrated. 5 ypc with tons of carries is nothing special. Only way he will get good rushing totals is by high carries per game.
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Well good golly molly, aren't you special?
Yes
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Why didn't you call up Spurrier and let him know you're feelings?! You could've saved him bro!
It was a common concern from many fans and people in media. Spurrier obviously didn't take notice.
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No shite. So why do you care if he's had only 3 games of 37 carries.
Merely giving my opinion, it is a forum for just that very thing.
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I'm pretty sure Spurrier and the rest of our coaching staff is completely more capable of making decisions on how many carries he gets than anyone on here.
Obviously not, but since they are paid millions they should be. He should be ashamed for abusing Marcus the way he did.
Posted on 8/23/12 at 2:05 am to bona fide
You know ever since ML came to SC I've been hearing ppl beating this into the ground. I'm not actually sure how many times a rb is suppose to touch the football but my guess is somewhere in the neighborhood of 20-25 times depending on how effective he is that day since that's usually about the amount of times a rb in the nfl touches.
As far as the injury who really knows I just know that in the scrimmage he carred 5 times for 23yds and caught a couple of passes.
Acl injury's vary from person to person it's really all about how tough you are mentally that's the main reason I don't think there will be any glaring drop off in production.
As far as the injury who really knows I just know that in the scrimmage he carred 5 times for 23yds and caught a couple of passes.
Acl injury's vary from person to person it's really all about how tough you are mentally that's the main reason I don't think there will be any glaring drop off in production.
Posted on 8/23/12 at 1:05 pm to jackmanusc
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He's out for a while with a wrist injury.
A while doesn't mean he won't be available during the season. And considering he's one of four, he probably won't be rushed back in a time of need.
This post was edited on 8/23/12 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 8/23/12 at 1:20 pm to Loathor
Latt is a gamer and just wants the ball. He gets stronger as the game goes on... ask Florida, and especially Georgia. I trust that Spurrier knows what he is doing in regards to how many carries he should or should not get.
Posted on 8/23/12 at 1:50 pm to bona fide
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I like him but he's overrated. 5 ypc with tons of carries is nothing special. Only way he will get good rushing totals is by high carries per game.
Really?!? Last year Marcus carried the ball over thirty times once, against Navy. His average? 6.65 yards per carry.
Your man Richardson carried the ball over thirty times twice (in back to back weeks, mind you), against Miss St. and Georgia Southern (Really?!? 30+ carries in blowouts?). His averages for those two games? 3.97 and 5.47, respectively. So... overrated?
Who's killing their running backs?
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It was a common concern from many fans and people in media. Spurrier obviously didn't take notice.
It was a common concern of many fans and media of other teams? I wonder why that is? Who would benefit if Lattimore got less carries against Georgia or Florida?
Question about stats for you.
40 carries, 212 yards (5.30 avg/att) 3 TDs.
7 carries, 102 yards (14.57 avg/att) 3 TDs.
Which one is the better running back just looking at those numbers?
Posted on 8/23/12 at 2:03 pm to Loathor
Every running back in the country blocks on an end around. Hell, some qbs block on those as well. Just because a running back gets injured doesn't mean it was from over use. Football is really tough on the body, everybody who plays it knows that going in, especially running backs. There is a long list of hall of fame running backs that averaged 20-25 carries per game and obviously had great careers. Everybody is different and can handle different workloads. Getting rolled up by a d linemen on an end around is not indicative of an injury caused by over use.
Posted on 8/23/12 at 4:32 pm to USCGamecocks
What is stupid about this whole conversation what about the games where we have ridden Lattimore into victory? There are plenty of examples. What if instead of riding Lattimore we had only given to him the SECR's recommended 20-25 times a game, but because of that had a less productive offense and lost those games? The rant, instead, and especially Gamecock fans, would be screaming at the top of their lungs asking "Why isn't SC using their best player?" and "what's the purpose of having one of the top recruits and top backs in the country if you don't give him the ball?"
I understand rant, as many of you are SC opponents I understand why you wouldn't want Lattimore to have the ball more.
I understand rant, as many of you are SC opponents I understand why you wouldn't want Lattimore to have the ball more.
Posted on 8/23/12 at 4:45 pm to volfan30
ingram wasnt quite the same after jacking up his knee, production fell off his junior year
Posted on 8/23/12 at 4:48 pm to theGarnetWay
quote:It isn't that we want Lattimore to run it less.
I understand rant, as many of you are SC opponents I understand why you wouldn't want Lattimore to have the ball more.
It is just that we don't want yall to complain when we say he is probably going to have a shorter career if he keeps at the current pace/risks getting over-worked.
Posted on 8/23/12 at 4:49 pm to volfan30
I think it is extremely rare for a RB to truly ever get back to 100% after a bad knee injury.
Posted on 8/23/12 at 4:51 pm to GoHoGsGo06
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It is just that we don't want yall to complain when we say he is probably going to have a shorter career
How many times has Knile Davis been injured? What's your excuse? Are you overworking Davis?
Posted on 8/23/12 at 9:19 pm to elposter
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I think it is extremely rare for a RB to truly ever get back to 100% after a bad knee injury.
In recent years, it's been more commonplace than otherwise.....ACL surgery and post-surgery therapy have improved by light years over the past 1-2 decades....
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