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re: Running Up The Scores

Posted on 11/27/11 at 9:35 am to
Posted by jatebe
Queen of Links
Member since Oct 2008
18284 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 9:35 am to
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Leading 27-14 after 3, BAMA adds 15 - they went for 2 after 1 TD
Final 1 2 3 4 T
Alabama #2 (11-1) « 14 10 3 15 42
Auburn (7-5) 7 0 7 0 14


Rivalry game. "Never Again"

I wanted them to put up more.
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17714 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 9:36 am to
Are Arkansas fans this stupid? Have none of y'all seen the superman movies? JJ imitates Kent ripping his suit open and transforming into superman. He does it every time he runs for a TD. Had nothing to do with ripping a heart out.

Arkansas offense is fully capable of scoring 21 points in 5 minutes. Miles was simply putting the game away. I know you hog fans arent this dumb. If Miles put up 77 points the ok, but he increased his 3 score lead to 4 to secure the win, nothing wrong with that, I know you hog fans are smarter then this ..... Then again.,
Posted by SLC
Hiwasse, AR
Member since Oct 2007
15522 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 9:40 am to
No, the Arkansas fans misunderstood. I'm confident there was no intention to mock or make light of the death.

It is hypocritical that LSU fan demand that the Arkansas fans and team understand Jefferson's action but refuse to even try to understand their perspective. Instead the LSU posters say Arkansas fans are butthurt, or looking for reasons to be offended, or Petrino is an a-hole and act like this week occurred in a vacuum. It is extremely myopic and petty.
Posted by SLC
Hiwasse, AR
Member since Oct 2007
15522 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 9:42 am to
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So, yeah. LSU fans are going to quickly defend their players and coach because that accusation is pretty serious and isn't true whatsoever.


Defend it with reasonable discussion and empathy, not ridicule and suggestions that not seeing it exactly from your perspective is because our fans are stupid or want to be offended.
Posted by ksliman
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2006
1166 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 9:46 am to
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It is hypocritical that LSU fan demand that the Arkansas fans and team understand Jefferson's action but refuse to even try to understand their perspective.


It is UTTERLY RIDICULOUS that LSU fans have to explain again and again that their players and coach were not mocking another player's death.

Even if you don't get the Superman reference, to then be led to the conclusion that they were making fun of the loss of another may be (as hard as it is to believe) the most outrageous accusation ever made on this site.
Posted by SLC
Hiwasse, AR
Member since Oct 2007
15522 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 9:48 am to
Read everything I posted instead of picking one sentence to try and misinterpret.
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
32894 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:05 am to
"Get the hell away from me you grass-eating punk!"
Posted by clevelandtiger
Member since Sep 2007
263 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:10 am to
How quickly some overlook the FACT that upon learning of the young man's passing, Miles immediately sent a condolence letter to Arkansas nation via Coach Petrino, who allegedly did not respond to Miles when he got it. AND the LSU nation made sure a moment of silence was dedicated to the young man at the game.

Posted by gallagherkck
Member since Nov 2009
3223 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:10 am to
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Defend it with reasonable discussion and empathy


I don't believe I've done anything to the contrary. If I have, I'd like to know.

If you didn't understand the Superman reference, fine. No one here (or at least not I) is going to crucify you for it. But to jump immediately to the conclusion that LSU was referencing a young man's death instead is a huge jump. I know our teams have been back and forth lately in terms of who wins and the games are gaining in terms of importance, but the "ripping out a heart" implication is quite extreme.

I understand Arkansas fans were extra sensitive this week due to what happened in NWA. But what is bothering LSU fans is the immediate accusation by Arkansas fans that LSU players, and their coach, were mocking a player's death. If Jefferson beat on his chest, would that also imply his heart is beating and Uekman's isn't? It seems hypersensitive (but, it wasn't our player, so perhaps it's all justified).

Further, what bothers LSU fans is a lot of this seems to be an effort to detract from what many, if not most, Arkansas fans don't want to admit: their team lost and wasn't as good as they thought/hope. I am sorry for your team/school's loss in regards to the player. But you had to expect LSU to defend it's players actions because well, there is nothing to it. Innocent celebration. That's all.
Posted by SLC
Hiwasse, AR
Member since Oct 2007
15522 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:22 am to
Some of our fans are hypersensitive, some straight up troll.

Some posters on here have made some great accusations at Petrino for his actions during the game. Running the score up is a red herring in my opinion, we've been rolled before by other teams before this game and he's never reacted this way. I wish he had comported himself better but I'm not shocked at all. In the 4 years he has been here, I've never seen him this shaken, at the press conference and the memorial. He then cancels all of his press conferences before the game. His reaction with Wolfson's question (tacky question, I loathe sideline reporters) shows he has been struggling this week. I think he's been in a bad place and he blew his lid during the game. It's a very human response and those criticizing him have not walked in his shoes.

This post was edited on 11/27/11 at 10:23 am
Posted by buffbraz
Member since Nov 2005
5677 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:48 am to
Mallett celebration

As you can see celebrations motioning to the chest or heart are not uncommon. If the roles were reversed and one of our players had passed and your QB had this type of reaction after a TD pass, I honestly can't see Miles pointing and yelling "Frick you motherfricker" across the field.

I do empathize that getting your asses handed to you after the death of a teammate might cause one to be hypersensitive as I know I would be. But these accusations are very serious and are not representative of our players or coaches. Hopefully this will cool down within the next year. Bad football blood is one thing; mocking a young man's death is in a different realm.

BTW, not only CAN a team score 21 points in less than 5 minutes..it happened in the exact same game that we are discussing. And with Wilson and the "high-powered" offense, Miles was securing victory.
Posted by gallagherkck
Member since Nov 2009
3223 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 11:04 am to
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not walked in his shoes.


I don't believe many are claiming to have done so. I think most are just straight up confused as to what could cause such a reaction. Kicking a FG with 5 minutes left? Highly doubtful. Throwing the ball when a 7-8 man blitz came? Probably not. The celebration? Maybe, if he misconstrued it.

I certainly am interested to hear what escalated his emotions to that level. It had to be extreme. I could almost understand the post-game handshake, as he could just want to get to the locker room with his team, but I'm going to have a hard time understanding his other actions.

I just hope we get to hear what happened, because right now, we're all just spit-balling.
This post was edited on 11/27/11 at 11:05 am
Posted by SLC
Hiwasse, AR
Member since Oct 2007
15522 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 11:06 am to
I'm not a Mallett fan and am glad he's gone. Poor, poor representative for Arkansas.

I for one don't blame LSU for scoring again, it's our team's job to top you.
This post was edited on 11/27/11 at 11:07 am
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73538 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 11:08 am to
quote:

Leading 42-7 after 3 Wisconsin kicked a Field Goal


Damn. That Penn State D was truly bad arse.
Posted by SLC
Hiwasse, AR
Member since Oct 2007
15522 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 11:09 am to
I doubt there is any public explanation. If we had PMs here I would let you know what I find out through back channels. I've already disclosed something that isn't public knowledge.
Posted by gallagherkck
Member since Nov 2009
3223 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 11:12 am to
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I doubt there is any public explanation


Perhaps it's best this way, you know?
Posted by SLC
Hiwasse, AR
Member since Oct 2007
15522 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 11:17 am to
Agreed.
Posted by Carlton Banks
Bel-Air, Los Angeles, California
Member since Feb 2008
1578 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 11:35 am to
I never understood why teams get mad when the other team "runs up the score".

So the other team is supposed to tie their hands behind their back and still try and beat you that way? That seems like more of an insult to me.

It's like when I was a little kid and my older brother used to play basketball against me with one hand behind his back and he was only allowed to shoot outside jump shots. That makes sense if I'm his little brother and he's trying to put us on an even playing field, but if we were the same age, and are "equal" opponents, then that would be a slap in the face for him to be beating me so bad and then play with one hand and only shooting 3-pointers.

Taking it easy on somebody is more of a slap in the face than playing until the final second. Nobody wants you to take it easy on them... they want your best from start to finish.

What kind of person would complain that you are beating them too bad? The whole idea of purposely trying not to score or purposely making it easier on the other team because they would be insulted if you winning by "too much" is ridiculous.

I wish teams would stop with all of that silly non-sense and change the etiquette.
Posted by tiger chaser
Birmingham Ala
Member since Feb 2008
7624 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 11:39 am to
I can see where Petrino would be a bit ticked off with 5 minutes left, LSU up big and the first string is still throwing toward the end zone.

If your defense wasn't blitzing, we would not have thrown the damn ball...you stop blitzing,..we stop throwing...we run the ball to end the game...take your pick?...its your dumbass coach's fault...
Posted by tiger chaser
Birmingham Ala
Member since Feb 2008
7624 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 11:45 am to
Looks like you are the fans working hard to not empathize with someone else's situation.

Its amazing how the talk of these Hogs has changed from a week ago...last week all we heard was how Piggies were gonna stomp our arse...LSU has played against a REAL qb...Ark's offense was the best that LSU had played against all year..YET...we kicked that arse...and now you have sour grapes...
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