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Posted on 7/11/14 at 12:25 pm to
Posted by Cockopotamus
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 12:25 pm to
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I seen a great post from another board about how USC gets to bring in athletes that don't qualify other places. I don't know if I should bring it here or not but basically USC has special admits for special circumstances. This started in 2007.


Sounds like bullshite.

I'm sure USC doesn't do anything other schools cant
Posted by Foolish cock
South Cak
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 12:28 pm to
True, and i am not happy about it.
Posted by Foolish cock
South Cak
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 12:31 pm to
quote:

I seen a great post from another board about how USC gets to bring in athletes that don't qualify other places. I don't know if I should bring it here or not but basically USC has special admits for special circumstances. This started in 2007.


Bull fricking shite. If that was true we wouldnt be having this problem now, would we? All of the non-qualifiers were recruited heavily by other sec schools.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

Prettyboy Floyd:

I seen a great post from another board about how USC gets to bring in athletes that don't qualify other places. I don't know if I should bring it here or not but basically USC has special admits for special circumstances. This started in 2007.




"seen a great post." "don't qualify other places." "special admits for special circumstances."

This has turned into the lulzing thread of all-time.

Oh please, by all means, share that with us Prettyboy.
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

I'm sure USC doesn't do anything other schools cant




UNDATED (AP) - An Associated Press review of admissions data submitted to the NCAA shows that athletes at 27 schools were at least 10 times more likely to benefit from special admission programs than students in the general population.

South Carolina's All-American linebacker Eric Norwood recently graduated early with a bachelor's degree in criminal justice.

Norwood was twice denied admission before being accepted as a special admit. The school softened special admission standards in 2007 after coach Steve Spurrier threatened to quit when two recruits who met NCAA requirements were turned down.

Norwood says he applied himself and got great support from the academic staff, the football staff and his teammates.

Athletic director Eric Hyman dismisses critics who call special admissions simply a way to land athletes. Hyman says it's also a way to get better artists and better musicians in school.

USC Eric Norwood

It's not that other schools can't. I never stated that.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 12:37 pm to
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South Carolina's All-American linebacker Eric Norwood recently graduated early with a bachelor's degree in criminal justice.


So that's it? We take underprivileged kids into all of our programs and work with them to better their lives and graduate them with degrees if they are willing to work hard and take care of business?

Yeah, that's tragic alright. Someone should sue us.
Posted by MenloDawg
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 12:40 pm to
People heppin bidness, eh?
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 12:44 pm to
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Yeah, that's tragic alright.


What's tragic is you knowingly lowered your standards in 2007 at the behest of your football coach and somehow still couldn't get those 8 guys in.

We're just telling you to do better.
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
15660 posts
Posted on 7/11/14 at 12:46 pm to
quote:

We're just telling you to do better.


8/21 just seems insane. That is alot of risk.
Posted by Foolish cock
South Cak
Member since Dec 2012
2529 posts
Posted on 7/11/14 at 12:50 pm to
This dude was denied admission into sc but got into tennessee, no problem.
LINK

Look, we shite the bed with this recruiting class, it is what it is, but we do things the right way.
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 12:52 pm to
To respond to the one SC poster that didn't just blow smoke up my arse = Obviously I won't call your 2014 class a bust if it contributes to continued success in the USCe program. But when you might already lose almost half your class, many of them highly touted recruits, it obviously hurts. How much it hurts is clearly up for debate, and we will have to wait and see.

The reason UF is struggling right now is because they had two really bad offensive classes in a row between 2011 and 2012. A lot of those players transferred out, or never contributed, leaving UF in trouble, despite their high overall recruiting rankings (made up of mostly high profile defensive recruits). This was compounded by a change in coaching staffs.

Having small, or failed recruiting staffs can lead to holes in the roster. Yes, these holes can be filled by Jucos or maybe other young studs that USCe may recruit later (maybe), but that typically isn't ideal. Also, it'll be harder for the SC roster to handle any coaching changes or injuries now that might happen in the near future.

So you can be like scrooster and make shite up about how we are stupid and cocksessed or whatever, but WE ALL KNOW, that people would be giving Florida or Arkansas or Georgia or Alabama or Ole Miss or whomever, endless amounts of shite, if they were to lose as many as 8 kids from a recruiting class for academic reasons.

That's like a self imposed sanction for frick sake.

There's a lot of what ifs that can go along with this.
Can USCe rebound from this? For sure, no shite!
Is it good for the program? No, absolutely not.
Is it program destroying? No, not at all.
Will USCe wish they had recruited better in the 2013 class down the road? Probably, yes.




Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
15737 posts
Posted on 7/11/14 at 12:53 pm to
Only 3 of those 8 are for sure not attending. The others are still up in the air.

And I'm sure there's a laundry list of sec schools that have done the same thing.
Posted by Phat Phil
Krispy Kreme
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

Can USCe rebound from this? For sure, no shite!
Is it good for the program? No, absolutely not.
Is it program destroying? No, not at all.
Will USCe wish they had recruited better in the 2013 class down the road? Probably, yes.


Disagree. I think SC is fricked.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
98974 posts
Posted on 7/11/14 at 12:57 pm to
They'll just have to ask some guys to step up earlier and may struggle in depth for a season if all 8 don't make it.

Now if it becomes a year in and year out thing then they're fricked. I doubt that happens though.
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
15737 posts
Posted on 7/11/14 at 1:01 pm to
Nothing has even happened yet. 3 failed to qualify, 1 we new was a risk, 1 we knew was going to be a project, and another Juco that had problems getting in two years ago.

2 are retaking the ACT today and we find out in a couple weeks if their scores were close enough to the ones flagged by the NCAA to be allowed in.

I'm not sure about the others, but considering a year ago we thought 14 would be our max number for this class, it's really not that big a deal.
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 1:34 pm to
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Disagree. I think SC is fricked.


UT-level fricked or just regular-fricked?

I might take offense if you are implying the first. But, then again, I guess a vol fan would know.
Posted by bama my heart
Tuscaloosa, Alabama
Member since Mar 2007
1293 posts
Posted on 7/11/14 at 1:34 pm to
I'm in no way telling him how to coach. I just don't understanding with him not winning any more than he has thinking that he is qualified to tell another coach how to coach and what he should be doing. Telling another coach that he has underachieved. Where does this come from, and why should he care? How would he feel if another coach said that about him. I respect Coach Spurrier, and really hate to hear him say comments like he does about other schools and other coaches, because it makes him look silly in my opinion.
How do you feel that people have said oh he's great because of what he has done at South Carolina, where no one expects them to win. Why not? If he's such a good coach, and as long as he has been there he should have recruited the best talent in the world. If not in South Carolina, then get off your butt Steve and go to other states and get players.
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 7/11/14 at 1:36 pm to
How did you here that?
Posted by Aggie Dynasty
USA
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 1:38 pm to
Texas A&M 45

South Carolina 24
Posted by PNW
Northern Rockies
Member since Mar 2014
6193 posts
Posted on 7/11/14 at 1:42 pm to
Time to start a "OFFICIAL: '14 How Many SCe Players Ruled Ineligible during the Offseason Thread"

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