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re: Rules Afficionados: WLCP Muffed Punt
Posted on 11/3/15 at 10:09 am to geauxnavybeatbama
Posted on 11/3/15 at 10:09 am to geauxnavybeatbama
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isn't there a difference bettween a muffed and fumbled punt? as in a muff would be it hit him in the leg or he called fair catch a dropped it, but a fumble is if he actually attempted to field it. can't remember if he called fair catch or not.
A muff is any touching by the receiving team other than a touch that is considered possessing the ball.
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Posted on 11/3/15 at 10:12 am to geauxnavybeatbama
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as in a muff would be it hit him in the leg or he called fair catch a dropped it, but a fumble is if he actually attempted to field it. can't remember if he called fair catch or not.
A muffed punt can occur whether a fair catch is called or not. If the ball touches any player on the receiving team, it's a live ball that can't be advanced by the defense.
Now, if the player fields the punt, and runs (has possession), and then fumbles, I believe that fumble can be advanced by the defense.
This post was edited on 11/3/15 at 10:14 am
Posted on 11/3/15 at 10:12 am to slackster
quote:but a muffed kickoff is a fumble. Unless it's in the endzone, then they just call it a touchback automatically. Another dumb rule.
I'd imagine it has something to do with the idea that a muffed punt/kick is not treated as a fumble. The thought process is that you cannot fumble something you never possessed in the first place.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 10:18 am to UFownstSECsince1950
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but a muffed kickoff is a fumble. Unless it's in the endzone, then they just call it a touchback automatically. Another dumb rule.
Meh, I don't really have a problem with this. Unless a player tries to field a kickoff in the endzone, and the ball bounces off the player into the field of play.
I don't a have an example of this happening, but I'm sure it has.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 10:19 am to UFownstSECsince1950
So because the Florida players batted the ball into the endzone, my belief is that if Georgia recovered it there, it would be a touchback. The NCAA has rules on impetus that seem to require this result.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 10:52 am to therick711
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So because the Florida players batted the ball into the endzone, my belief is that if Georgia recovered it there, it would be a touchback
Yes. Not a safety as some people are saying
Posted on 11/3/15 at 11:11 am to therick711
Let me ask my ACC officiating contacts.
Hang on, it's still under review.
Hang on, it's still under review.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 11:27 am to therick711
It's a really dumb rule. If the receiving team touches the ball on a punt, then the kicking team should be able to advance the ball if they get it. On a kickoff, if the ball goes 10 yards or the receiving team touches it, then the kicking team should be able to advance it.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 11:28 am to Indigold
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Yes. Not a safety as some people are saying
This. It would be a touchback.
This post was edited on 11/3/15 at 11:28 am
Posted on 11/3/15 at 11:45 am to therick711
Someone say, "muff"? ... oh.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 12:13 pm to pvilleguru
This was a key play in the 2006 SEC Championship Game where Wondy Pierre-Louis recovered an Arkansas muff in the endzone
Posted on 11/3/15 at 12:21 pm to joshnorris14
None of our bench players ran onto the field without a helmut on.
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