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re: Reports out that Clem players’ “B” sample also positive for PEDs.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 10:46 pm to ForeverGator
Posted on 12/27/18 at 10:46 pm to ForeverGator
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Man the REC is deep with going and changing out those samples.
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Posted on 12/27/18 at 10:51 pm to Lonnie Utah
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How is it a dumb example? It's the quintessential example of how its possible to beat drug testing in sport. Not just once or twice, but for years. Lance Armstrong was THE most dope tested athlete in history, and he never failed a drug test. I don't know what happened in Clemson or why, nor do I care. They had a banned substance in their system. Both tests confirmed it. Guilty.
Dabo says these gentlemen are just that, gentlemen. Honorable young men who wouldn't dare do anything like take a drug to gain an advantage over suckers and losers who don't dope up.
Dabo says it's all a lie.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 10:52 pm to A Lite
Why did I read this in a Bobby Boucher voice
Posted on 12/27/18 at 10:53 pm to Carolina_Girl
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Clemson had to resort to doping to beat us. Prove us wrong, Clemson. Ohhhh that's right...you can't. And proof is on our side, not yours.
Until the NCAA vacates our wins over USCe you’re wrong - but I’m sure if you hold your breath long enough your wish will come true.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 10:55 pm to PowHound
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Yeah, dude just put a little extra salt on his tater-tots and boom, NCAA up his fricken arse.
Dabo said it may have been salt that they took while in the bath-tub, something about bath salts. The players were just cleaning up after a game, soaking in the tub and licking on a salt block, and now they can't play.
Crazy arse drug testers talking about Listerine showed up on the test. Now players have to go around with stinking breath to pass a test?
Lawsuits are coming. Billboards are being rented!
This post was edited on 12/28/18 at 12:21 am
Posted on 12/27/18 at 10:55 pm to ClemsonRules
GUILTY!!!
GUILTY!!!
GUILTY!!!
GUILTY!!!
GUILTY!!!
Posted on 12/27/18 at 10:59 pm to CNB
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Why did I read this in a Bobby Boucher voice
I don't know but I did the same thing after you mentioned it. It's funnier that way.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 11:05 pm to Toneski
now Clemson won’t win by 45
they’ll only win by 35
they’ll only win by 35
Posted on 12/27/18 at 11:07 pm to A Lite
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soaking in the tub and licking on a salt block,
Dabo said
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:06 am to cajunbama
I'm floating in the tub, sucking on some Epsom salt, next thing you know I failed a drug test for a steroid substitute that is the hottest, latest, and coolest PED among bodybuilders because it activates the same receptors as old skool steroids without the side effects.
It's some kind of trickeration is what it is. I don't even use Listerine and never have.
Bath Salts
Clelin Ferrell said they’ll investigate the float tanks.
“The Epsom salt that’s in the float tank we’re floating in,” the Clemson defensive end continued. “It could’ve been anything.
“They’re investigating everything.”
It's some kind of trickeration is what it is. I don't even use Listerine and never have.
Bath Salts
Clelin Ferrell said they’ll investigate the float tanks.
“The Epsom salt that’s in the float tank we’re floating in,” the Clemson defensive end continued. “It could’ve been anything.
“They’re investigating everything.”
This post was edited on 12/28/18 at 12:11 am
Posted on 12/28/18 at 1:35 am to FightinTiga
Get off your knees and wipe your mouth.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 4:48 am to A Lite
Posted on 12/28/18 at 6:16 am to Toneski
Clemson's attempted defense in this whole thing has been hilarious. That combined with their holier than thou attitude makes this story great.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 6:22 am to CivilTiger83
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I am not arguing he is not guilty of having it in his system. I am saying based on past history of no PED use despite being tested over the past several years in the playoff and by Clemson, it is plausible that it was exposure via contamination and not as part of some grand steroid scheme. Exposure via contamination has happened recently with a triathlete.
We all know exactly what happened.
You do, too.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 6:25 am to GetCocky11
There is only one explanation.
Immaculate injection.
Immaculate injection.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 6:46 am to CivilTiger83
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I am not arguing he is not guilty of having it in his system. I am saying based on past history of no PED use despite being tested over the past several years in the playoff and by Clemson, it is plausible that it was exposure via contamination and not as part of some grand steroid scheme. Exposure via contamination has happened recently with a triathlete.
This isn't the best example to use. 1) It was never proven that salt tablets were the source of the banned aubstance. That was just a theory floated by the athlete. 2) The athlete still accepted a 6 month ban from sport for failing the test.
Given what I posted above about how one can beat dope testing by microdosing and timing, it doesn't look good for Clemson.
This post was edited on 12/28/18 at 6:48 am
Posted on 12/28/18 at 6:54 am to Lonnie Utah
After 5 half lives, a drug is considered eliminated from the body. Having such a small amount in their system would tell me they either were exposed to a small amount recently or a larger amount much further back. The common denominator between the 3 players, is that they all are recovering from injury over the past year. Regardless, it was in their system, rules are rules.
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By definition, the plasma concentration of a drug is halved after one elimination half-life. Therefore, in each succeeding half-life, less drug is eliminated. After one half-life the amount of drug remaining in the body is 50% after two half-lives 25%, etc. After 4 half-lives the amount of drug (6.25%) is considered to be negligible regarding its therapeutic effects.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 7:03 am to Herman Frisco
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Contaminated medicine is not that unheard of. I took the blood pressure medicine Diovan for years. Got a notice to see my Doctor and start on another drug. The medicine was manufactured in China. The contamination was rocket fuel.
Did you seem to have more energy?
Posted on 12/28/18 at 7:07 am to CivilTiger83
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No, it is a response to your point about half life and how recent the use would have been. If the amount detected is a tiny trace, it stands to reason it could have been a longer time period.
Okay. So, are you saying it was okay if they took it the week before?
Athletes have been masking steroids and PED's for decades, and are very successful with it. Just because they have not been caught before does not mean they have never been doing it.
That said, probably every team in the NCAA has players doing something. Usually they get caught because they mask incorrectly.
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This post was edited on 12/28/18 at 7:10 am
Posted on 12/28/18 at 7:20 am to CivilTiger83
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And the amount detected was a tiny trace
That's false.
Here's a quote from someone one /r/cfb who seemingly knows what they're actually talking about.
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As a Clemson grad I have a pretty objective take. Big Dex said the test revealed a 0.02% amount of it per unit volume. A common threshold for drug testing is 15 ng/mL which would translate to 0.0000015% per unit of volume. 0.02% is A LOT and definitely not something they got from an energy drink or “on accident”.
This post was edited on 12/28/18 at 7:21 am
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