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re: Ranking the size of SEC fanbases, IMHO

Posted on 4/2/13 at 10:47 pm to
Posted by theGarnetWay
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Posted on 4/2/13 at 10:47 pm to
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Back to bed with ye. Your argument is horrible and impossible to prove.



But he's been to Rock Hill once and knows the latest teenage fashions in Missouri!
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 4/2/13 at 10:47 pm to
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Back to bed with ye. Your argument is horrible and impossible to prove.


As opposed to the "I live in South Carolina and I know" argument. Way more sound.

South Carolina has a great fan base. So does Clemson. I'm not arguing yours is smaller. I'm saying it's silly to say you dwarf a top 25 fanbase. You're both top 25 fanbases.
Posted by theGarnetWay
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Posted on 4/2/13 at 10:50 pm to
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As opposed to the "I live in South Carolina and I know" argument.



>>>>>>>>>>> I saw a few teenagers that had on Cock merchandise and worked on the SC / NC border.

This post was edited on 4/2/13 at 10:51 pm
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 4/2/13 at 10:50 pm to
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You ignored it because you were trying to use it as data that proved that the SC fan base wasn't much larger than Clemson's but when I pointed out to you that SC has more merchandise sales than A&M's suddenly you didn't want to talk about it anymore.


I don't think you're very bright.

I don't think you understand the concept of correlation.

I think you're a homer.

There's a short list for you.
Posted by TlGERBLOOD
South Orange, NJ
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 4/2/13 at 10:50 pm to
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But he's been to Rock Hill once and knows the latest teenage fashions in Missouri!


Rock Hill? That's a po-dunk arse town out in Western MO (no offense KC folks). But here in St. Louis this trend is definitely en vogue. And I'd know more than most as I'm a little less than a decade out from being one if those jackass teenagers.
This post was edited on 4/2/13 at 10:52 pm
Posted by theGarnetWay
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Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 4/2/13 at 10:53 pm to
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I don't think you're very bright.

I don't think you understand the concept of correlation.

I think you're a homer.

There's a short list for you.



Ah yes, the point in the argument where there is nothing else for you to say so arbitrary insults are used.

I don't think you're very intelligent.

I don't think you understand a state that you have visited once as much as you assume you do.

I think you should stick to Missouri-related things.

There's a short list for you.



Did I do it right?
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 4/2/13 at 10:56 pm to
The state is about 75% South Carolina and 25% Clemson.

Hell I see more Georgia fans on the streets than I do Clemson fans. You really only see them in upstate SC. Yeah there's a few, but pales in comparison.

Sorry Mizzoubro's. You're wrong.
Posted by The_Joker
Winter Park, Fl
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 4/2/13 at 10:58 pm to
TN and Arkansas should be a little bit higher IMO but pretty good list
Posted by theGarnetWay
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Posted on 4/2/13 at 11:00 pm to
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You really only see them in upstate SC


But that's the only part of the state he has been in. And my "lived and been around the entire state" is apparently less relevant than his sample size.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 4/2/13 at 11:01 pm to
I'll elucidate for you.

If a team has the most fans, one would expect that they would sell a lot of 1) tickets and 2) merchandise. A team with the most fans may not sell the MOST tickets and/or merchandise. But we can also expect that a team with very few fans will not sell a lot of tickets and merchandise.

If a fanbase sells a lot of tickets and/or merchandise, it is safe to assume they have a lot of fans. Clemson sells a lot of tickets and merchandise. Therefore it is safe to assume that they have a lot of fans.

Furthermore, as college fandom is largely (but not exclusively) regional, it would be surprising to see huge numbers of Clemson fans in, say, South Dakota. One would expect the vast majority of their fans to be located in and around South Carolina.

And as South Carolina is the 24ish most populated state, it is almost impossible for a state to be "dominated" by South Carolina fans and still have Clemson be ranked in the top 25 fan bases.

If you cannot follow any part of this rather linear argument, please let me know which part tripped you up.
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 4/2/13 at 11:04 pm to
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If you cannot follow any part of this rather linear argument, please let me know which part tripped you up.


The part where you said most fans = more tickets and merchandise and most fans = not always more tickets and merchandise.
This post was edited on 4/2/13 at 11:05 pm
Posted by LSUNV
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Posted on 4/2/13 at 11:05 pm to
This whole argument is pointless! REC already bought and paid for the number 1 spot. Resistance is futile
Posted by theGarnetWay
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Posted on 4/2/13 at 11:05 pm to
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And as South Carolina is the 24ish most populated state, it is almost impossible for a state to be "dominated" by South Carolina fans and still have Clemson be ranked in the top 25 fan bases.


Top 25 from what ranking? Because you say it is?
Because they have 2 top 25 merchandise and ticket sales? Did you ever account for the fact that the state of AL has around the same population as SC yet it has 2 of the largest college fan bases in the U.S.?

Its real simple and it may be hard from someone to Missouri to understand but like AL, SC has no pro-teams. It is a college only and football crazy state so while it may only have a medium-sized population I guarantee you a high % of those fans have SC or Clemson as far and away their #1 team and they team they support far and away more than any other.

So yes it is possible for a state our size to have 2 schools with significant support but one with a significant amount of more support than the other.
This post was edited on 4/2/13 at 11:07 pm
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 4/2/13 at 11:06 pm to
The real question on my mind is why are you so pussy hurt about us saying we beat Clemson in something? Got an affair going on with the ACC?
Posted by LSUNV
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Posted on 4/2/13 at 11:07 pm to
Shhh! You used he pro word
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 4/2/13 at 11:07 pm to
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I guarantee you a high % of those fans have SC or Clemson as far and away their #1 team and they team they support far and away more than any other


Are all SC fans functionally illiterate? Your statement above is perfectly in line with exactly what I've been posting. Jeezis.
This post was edited on 4/2/13 at 11:08 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 4/2/13 at 11:09 pm to
Good thing you edited that to say something I actually said.

And thanks for proving you have no idea what "correlation" is.
Posted by theGarnetWay
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Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 4/2/13 at 11:09 pm to
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Are all SC fans functionally illiterate? Your statement above is perfectly in line with exactly what I've been posting. Jeezis.


What? I never said Clemson didn't have good support. No SC fan would claim that. I said SC has a larger fan base in comparison to Clemson than you believe. Now try reading the rest of my post as to how that is possible.

This post was edited on 4/2/13 at 11:10 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 4/2/13 at 11:10 pm to
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is why are you so pussy hurt about us saying we beat Clemson in something


I simply argued Clemson has a significant fan base. I never even said theirs was bigger. Are y'all always this sensitive about them?
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 4/2/13 at 11:11 pm to
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Good thing you edited that to say something I actually said.


Only thing I added was "and tickets"
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