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re: Ranking the CFB Playoff Resumes : Is it possible the B1G gets 3 in?
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:53 am to Triple Daves
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:53 am to Triple Daves
8 TEAM PLAYOFF VERSUS 4 TEAM PLAYOFF
Whether you prefer an 8 team or a 4 team, and I think we are headed for 8 is debatable and pure preference.
What I really don't get is the so called experts, who claim an 8 team playoff dilutes the regular season, however is perfectly fine with a non conference champion getting in. That makes no sense. They are basically saying that " the media darlings " should get a mulligan. That's crap. If they really believe that it should only be 4 teams, then there should be no issue with the committee seeding/ selective the top 4 conf. champions for the playoff. That should be it....
so IMO, this year...
they should select from
BAMA/ UF winner
CU/ VT winner
PSU/ Wisky winner
Colo/ Udub winner
OSU/OU winner (basically B12 ccg) winner
and seed them accordingly...
if every game should count then it should, and UM, tOSU, USC... and everyone else... you lost the wrong games, better luck next year.
Whether you prefer an 8 team or a 4 team, and I think we are headed for 8 is debatable and pure preference.
What I really don't get is the so called experts, who claim an 8 team playoff dilutes the regular season, however is perfectly fine with a non conference champion getting in. That makes no sense. They are basically saying that " the media darlings " should get a mulligan. That's crap. If they really believe that it should only be 4 teams, then there should be no issue with the committee seeding/ selective the top 4 conf. champions for the playoff. That should be it....
so IMO, this year...
they should select from
BAMA/ UF winner
CU/ VT winner
PSU/ Wisky winner
Colo/ Udub winner
OSU/OU winner (basically B12 ccg) winner
and seed them accordingly...
if every game should count then it should, and UM, tOSU, USC... and everyone else... you lost the wrong games, better luck next year.
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 8:54 am
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:59 am to Triple Daves
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If Washington and Clemson lose, would the committee take Ohio State, PSU/Wisky and Michigan in addition to Alabama? If not, who do they take?
No they wouldn't. They would give the fourth playoff spot to Clemson or Oklahoma. Oklahoma won their conference plus they haven't lost any games against conference opponents. If OU had played the non-conference schedule that Washington did, they would be undefeated right now.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:05 am to Triple Daves
If Ok State beats Oklahoma next week, winning the Big 12, they may get serious consideration. Everyone has already admitted they got royally fricked in the CMU game and that they should be a 1-loss team.
It just depends on how the committee views them, I guess.
It just depends on how the committee views them, I guess.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:08 am to 3rddownonthe8
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What I really don't get is the so called experts, who claim an 8 team playoff dilutes the regular season, however is perfectly fine with a non conference champion getting in. That makes no sense. They are basically saying that " the media darlings " should get a mulligan.
No they aren't. Their argument is that a team's entire body of work over the course of a season should be taken into consideration instead of the results of just one game. Ohio State has an incredibly strong resume. If you look at the old BCS computer polls, Ohio State is ranked #2 in all of those polls. They've beaten three top 10 teams in Michigan, Oklahoma and Wisconsin. They also annihilated a top 25 Nebraska team by 59 points. By every measure, Ohio State is one of the top four teams in the country. It's ridiculous that the results of one game automatically wipes out their entire body of work.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:18 am to Triple Daves
Does 1 & 4 seeds play in Atlanta?? How do they assign the locations?
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:38 am to Triple Daves
Conference champs automatically in, the remaining 3 at-large. The regular season would matter, more teams would still have something to play for, and teams wouldn't give up on scheduling strong OOC matchups. More than 8 would be diluting things, less than 8 minimizes the importance of winning your own conference.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:39 am to Bench McElroy
No its ridiculous that a perceived out of conf schedule , would out weigh a div title, conf champ, and head to head win.
Plus the committee is not supposed to , by their own by laws, not look at any polls or consider them. Only results.
Plus the committee is not supposed to , by their own by laws, not look at any polls or consider them. Only results.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:41 am to vandelay industries
Exactly.
Now I have to go throw up since I agreed with an AU fan
Now I have to go throw up since I agreed with an AU fan
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:42 am to KingTayoPrado
Closest location to 1 seed
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:43 am to 3rddownonthe8
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Plus the committee is not supposed to , by their own by laws, not look at any polls or consider them. Only results.
Its laughable to think they dont look at polls every week
Also, their entire first ranking is based off the polls
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:45 am to Camel Menthol
No it is not. They have made that clear or at least try to convince everyone they don't.
The polls are only for media to drive ratings these days. They are for the most part dead.
The polls are only for media to drive ratings these days. They are for the most part dead.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:23 am to anc
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Ohio State is probably in, but if Penn State or Wisconsin were to blow the other out, who knows.
If Bama, Clemson, and Washington win, I think the only way that Ohio State might not make it is if Penn State just beats the dog mess outta Wiscy...if Wiscy wins, they can feel comfortable leaving them out and say OSU's head to head win balances out Wiscy's conference championship...
After all the talk, since the inception of the CFP, 'bout emphasizing conference championships and head to head matchups, the committee is gonna catch a lot of crap if Penn State wins the Big 10 but is left out...but they'd probably do that rather than leave a 1-loss Washington out. Think they'd rather tick off one Big 10 team than tick off an entire conference...
Chaotic scenario: say Clemson, Washington, and Wiscy lose. Could the Big 10 get in 3 teams since Michigan would have whupped 2 conference champs (Colorado and Penn State)? Or could 2 non-division winning Big 10 teams get in and the Big 10 champ get left out in that case?
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:41 am to Triple Daves
Right now the committee is praying one of these two wins and one loses. And that's Clemson and Washington.
Their job is pretty easy if that happens. If both win or both lose it gets really hard for the 4 spot.
I think overrated state is in no matter what at the 2 seed. I don't see any way the big 10 get 3 though.
Their job is pretty easy if that happens. If both win or both lose it gets really hard for the 4 spot.
I think overrated state is in no matter what at the 2 seed. I don't see any way the big 10 get 3 though.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:46 am to 3rddownonthe8
This, unless that location suits the team they are playing better. For example, Bama is the 1 seed and Georgia Tech is the 4 seed (not going to happen but you get the point). Then Bama would go to the Fiesta so they aren't at a 'disadvantage'
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:17 am to Triple Daves
someone has been methodically downvoting every single post in this thread. Which B1G fan could it be? I've seen an argument made for all three OSU/Mich/PSU in here.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:20 am to Buckeye06
Im thinking of just saying F'it. And getting some tickets to tha Natty 
Rather bama makes it or not, I dont live far from tampa bay. Still would have the time of my life regardless.
Rather bama makes it or not, I dont live far from tampa bay. Still would have the time of my life regardless.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:36 am to Buckeye06
Not sure this true??
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:38 am to ATLdawg25
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someone has been methodically downvoting every single post in this thread. Which B1G fan could it be? I've seen an argument made for all three OSU/Mich/PSU in here.
I was just noticing that, too, and thinking the exact same thing. 
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:39 am to Buckeye06
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This, unless that location suits the team they are playing better. For example, Bama is the 1 seed and Georgia Tech is the 4 seed (not going to happen but you get the point). Then Bama would go to the Fiesta so they aren't at a 'disadvantage'
I don't know the exact rule there but I'd guess that Alabama would rather play in Atlanta under any circumstance, even if it was Georgia or Georgia Tech, than go to Phoenix.
I mean, there is a possibility we play Clemson in the semi-finals. Clemson is technically closer to Atlanta than Tuscaloosa is.
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:40 am to OldPete
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Chaotic scenario: say Clemson, Washington, and Wiscy lose. Could the Big 10 get in 3 teams since Michigan would have whupped 2 conference champs (Colorado and Penn State)? Or could 2 non-division winning Big 10 teams get in and the Big 10 champ get left out in that case?
Exactly. If Clemson, Washington and Wisconsin lose (not probable, but definitely possible) - then what?
You are down to : Alabama and Ohio State, in.
Possibles : 10-2 Michigan, 10-2 Penn State, 10-2 Clemson, 10-2 OU/Okie St, 10-2 Colorado, 10-2 Washington
Penn State won what is probably the best league. Michigan BEAT Penn State AND Colorado.
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