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re: Quotes from coaches around the country on the Bert/Saban proposed rule change

Posted on 2/15/14 at 10:55 am to
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
32482 posts
Posted on 2/15/14 at 10:55 am to
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Funny though that certain fan bases have no problem with "bitch" moves when it comes to short cutting their teams to success moving the ball but cry foul when others exploit loop holes to close loopholes.


You bringing up loopholes. WTF are you talking about?

What loophole is being exploited
Posted by Gator5220
Member since Aug 2010
3132 posts
Posted on 2/15/14 at 10:56 am to
Eliminate OT.

Player Safety>Winning
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 2/15/14 at 10:58 am to
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Very very few of them are innovators and are just copycats running the HUHN


Every single one of them are innovators. No two spreads are exactly the same. The ones running the "pro style" are the copycats. They are the ones copying what other people do.
Posted by 6nmylifetime
668 Neighbor to the Beast
Member since Nov 2012
598 posts
Posted on 2/15/14 at 11:00 am to
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You bringing up loopholes. WTF are you talking about?

What loophole is being exploited


It's the fact that the HUNH is not some innovative creative offense it's simply an exploitation of the rule book. In essence a loophole. It's the same argument that the "option" is not what is giving teams trouble, it's the fact that teams are not allowed a chance to line up on defense. For me it's why I have more of a problem with the quick snap than the HUNH.
Posted by tkane311
Mo-billionaire
Member since Oct 2009
2336 posts
Posted on 2/15/14 at 11:00 am to
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I'm not sure why it's so hard for most people to understand that more plays = more chances for injury.


And I don't understand how it's so difficult for you Gumps to understand. People are actually playing football now. This creates data that can be analyzed. For whatever reason, the data suggests that those teams running more plays are actually injured less. Besides, nobody seem to give a shite about this logic when we were adding games and adding a playoff which added yet another game.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
32482 posts
Posted on 2/15/14 at 11:01 am to
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It's the fact that the HUNH is not some innovative creative offense it's simply an exploitation of the rule book



elaborate
This post was edited on 2/15/14 at 11:02 am
Posted by highcotton2
Alabama
Member since Feb 2010
9403 posts
Posted on 2/15/14 at 11:03 am to
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I'm not sure why it's so hard for most people to understand that more plays = more chances for injury.


Well then I guess we need to go back to a 11 game schedule and cut out all these championship games and extra playoff games. Think of how many lives that would save. That would be a couple of hundred plays cut out right there. I bet there would be negative injuries.

By the way Teague, did you see where Huntsville was getting the new Remington plant?
Posted by TunaTigers
Nola
Member since Dec 2007
5352 posts
Posted on 2/15/14 at 11:04 am to
The whole game of football is about creating mismatches. Saban has done this for years putting a team on the field that out physicals the other team. Now that some offensive philosophy's take advantage of his scheme he is going to cry about it to the rules committee under the guise of players safety is utterly ridiculous.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
28805 posts
Posted on 2/15/14 at 11:05 am to
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more plays = more chances for injury.



quote:

Are you being serious?


Yes he is, because Saban said it, it must be true.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260404 posts
Posted on 2/15/14 at 11:05 am to
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Nut up, it's football!"



There's a respectable guy. Too bad Saban tries to rig the game in his favor.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70904 posts
Posted on 2/15/14 at 11:06 am to
If it follows every rule, it is not an exploitation of the rules. You should look up the word exploitation. There are no loopholes. They just play faster, it's that simple.

You're essentially saying the offense should always give the defense time to set up. This is football at a high level, not pee wee. You do whatever you can to gain a competitive edge.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
15181 posts
Posted on 2/15/14 at 11:06 am to
Supportive quotes from a bunch of guys who are using it as the only means to be competitive.

Shocker.

It's like asking people who use welfare to buy cars there opinion if welfare should be cracked down upon and them answer "no" while giving their opinion why not.

Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 2/15/14 at 11:07 am to
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I'm not sure why it's so hard for most people to understand that more plays = more chances for injury.


It boils down to common sense. Following your philosophy, raising the speed limit will cause more accidents. In actuality, it caused less accidents by year two. I saw a stat that Auburn averaged TWO more snaps a quarter than bama. Your excuses are bullshite.....and that is exactly what they are.
This post was edited on 2/15/14 at 11:08 am
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70904 posts
Posted on 2/15/14 at 11:07 am to
Did you even read the OP? Go read it then come back.
Posted by diddydirtyAubie
Bozeman
Member since Dec 2010
39829 posts
Posted on 2/15/14 at 11:08 am to
I'm in favor of cutting the scholarships down to 70 FWIW. More equal teams across the board instead of a monopoly.
Posted by constant cough
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2007
44788 posts
Posted on 2/15/14 at 11:10 am to
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If you give a Gump a second, he's gonna want ten.



Kinda sums up this whole issue
Posted by 6nmylifetime
668 Neighbor to the Beast
Member since Nov 2012
598 posts
Posted on 2/15/14 at 11:11 am to
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elaborate


The main component of the HUNH is catching the other team not ready. It's not about X's,O's and execution. It's not about innovative new formations or plays. It's not about running a route better to get open or putting a hat on a hat to make a hole. It's about catching someone with their pants down. It's fundamental success relies more on the other team not doing their job than your team doing it's job, and it will be figured out relatively quickly by defensive coaches. Which is why I don't really see a need for a rule change. The HUNH will go the way of the wishbone soon enough. What teams that live and die by it need to be concerned about is what will their coach do if he doesn't have the talent to design and call plays without gimmicks. In this regard I have a lot more confidence in Saban to figure a defense out to stop it than I do in some other high school coaches living without it.
Posted by everytrueson
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Mar 2012
5893 posts
Posted on 2/15/14 at 11:13 am to
At 0-8 the piggies have to try to change the rules to find a win.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70904 posts
Posted on 2/15/14 at 11:14 am to
The HUNH is just as much about Xs and Os and execution as it is about catching the other team off guard.

Not to mention you're not catching anyone off guard. You prep all week for teams you play. You know exactly how they play.
Posted by beaver
The 755 Club
Member since Sep 2009
46861 posts
Posted on 2/15/14 at 11:15 am to
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It's not about running a route better to get open or putting a hat on a hat to make a hole. It's about catching someone with their pants down.


Did you actually watch auburn any this year? Bc if so and you still stand by that statement, you're mentally disabled
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