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re: Question on Freeze's behavior at Briarcrest Christian School in relation to Ole Miss

Posted on 7/26/17 at 12:42 pm to
Posted by hubreb
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 12:42 pm to
Some of these Briarcrest comments are pure BS...i have one kid who graduated from there and another still at the school...Freeze was still the coach there when we started at the school...It is not a weird school..you can get as much or little religion as you want...the sports recruiting is BS, especially compared to CBHS and MUS
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 12:43 pm to
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But I do believe some things that are considered inappropriate today would have been glossed over 20 years ago.


I think the biggest change has been with female teachers sleeping with male students. It was kind of shrugged off when I was in high school in the late 80's, but you can barely go a week without hearing about another female teacher arrested these days. There were 2 confirmed, and another 2 rumored when I was in high school. Nothing happened to any of them, and one is still teaching.

There was a male teacher caught having a relationship with a female student at my high school, and he was immediately fired. They both claimed it was non-sexual, and they had no evidence it ever was, so the teacher's union got him placed at another school in a different city.
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37299 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 12:43 pm to
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I went to a small public school in Alabama. I distinctly remember a case where a girl had to change shirts in a principal's office because it was offensive. It was talked about, but nothing ever came of it. There were certainly rumors and innuendo that teachers and coaches had relationships with students.


I went to a small Catholic School and the only rumor I heard during my time was the Principal banging one of the teachers. Both of them seemed so boring and repressed that if it happened it would still surprise me but they definitely had a 'close relationship'.

Now 5 or 6 years ago a young female teacher (maybe 24 or 25) was banging a senior. She's gone needless to say.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17448 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 12:46 pm to
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Please tell me this is just a bad rumor.That is beyond awful


Once again the point is using 2017 societal values/morals to judge actions in 2000 to 2004. Hell stuff that was regular everyday in my High School days would never float today. I mean who remembers coaches screaming "water is for the weak", having a lightening detector at sporting events, or having to pull down your pants for a paddling from the principle? I sure do and they definitely don't go on today!
Posted by GnashRebel
Member since May 2015
8176 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 12:48 pm to
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Where the hell did you go to school? I was in high school from 1986-90 and that shite would have and didn't ever happen. If a male principal made a female student change shirts in front of him back then their daddy would've beat his arse in less than an hour.


Yeah, my sister went to an all girls school and I went to catholic school in elementary and Junior high and the women teachers handled that stuff.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64549 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 1:04 pm to
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the sports recruiting is BS, especially compared to CBHS and MUS

MUS started recruiting long after Briarcrest. I graduated from MUS in 2003 and we had zero students at the entire school that were recruited athletes. Hell, we had 2 black kids in my class of 100. One was a nerd and the other had rich parents and drove a Range Rover. We were not in the business of having families adopt kids for players that we wanted to play football for us.
MUS just has more money, better coaches, and better facilities. It's ok to be jealous
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It is not a weird school..you can get as much or little religion as you want.

bullshite, and I say that as someone who has relatives and many friends who attended Briarcrest
This post was edited on 7/26/17 at 1:06 pm
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 1:05 pm to
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Briarcrest is a pretty weird school (it was originally a Southern Baptist school). It is especially religious even compared to the other private schools.


Lol... no it's not. I graduated from there when it was still Briarcrest Baptist, before they nearly went bankrupt and had to be bailed out and became simply Briarcrest Christian and it was no more religious than ECS (those were the weird ones), Elliston or FACS (even more weird than ECS). But yeah, it was more religious than say.. MUS or CBHS or St. Mary's or Immaculate Conception.

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Very in-your-face christian, very much about public perception, very pretentious if you ask me.


Not sure what make you say this.

Anyways... like I said yesterday, the Freeze stuff I would hope is not true. And I've seen nothing to make the think it is. But I've got a senior there and a 3rd grader, and they will be gone with rather amazing speed if even one hint of it is true and was covered up in any way, shape, form or fashion by Briarcrest.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16468 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 1:06 pm to
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the TSSAA split because private schools offer financial aid. It did not give schools the ability to have free reign to recruit athletes. Schools circumvent the rules, absolutely, but no they can't just recruit athletes. For instance, my school started "recruiting" after I graduated. ALL students still have to pass the entrance exams. Then they fill out the same paperwork other students do that receive financial aid. About 1/3 of our student body was on financial aid, most of them being non-athletes. However, the shite Braircrest was doing when Freeze was there, what Brentwood Academy has been doing for decades, and what Ensworth is doing now isn't exactly "by the book." But yes, in a nutshell, they made private high schools switch divisions because of that.


I'll stand corrected by you and the other poster about it still being technically against the rules, but that is what the gist of the split over financial aid was about. If it weren't for recruiting advantage of financial aid, there would have been no reason to split.

We've posted in some threads before, and we went to the same high school.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64549 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 1:07 pm to
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it was no more religious than ECS (those were the weird ones),

I agree with this. they are the worst. When they finally beat us in football for the first time they made t-shirts that said "a victory for Jesus"
Posted by hubreb
Member since Nov 2008
1843 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 1:10 pm to
How many MUS d1 players Vs BCS, Briarcrest has 3? How many times has BCS beat MUS or CBHS,, I think twice in my time...Kids have been there for 15 years...may have been different in 90s...but pretty normal now for a Christian school
Posted by BlindestSide
Member since Jul 2017
17 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 1:11 pm to
LOL at the poster who said Briarcrest isn't overly religious. You really must be kidding.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 1:14 pm to
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How many times has BCS beat MUS


Should have beat them last year save for some horrible officiating.

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How many MUS d1 players Vs BCS, Briarcrest has 3?


On this year's team? Do they have even 3?
This post was edited on 7/26/17 at 1:15 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64549 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 1:15 pm to
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How many times has BCS beat MUS or CBHS,, I think twice in my time...Kids have been there for 15 years...may have been different in 90s...but pretty normal now for a Christian school


They're both bigger schools. Briarcrest has about 100 kids a grade and is coed. MUS has 100-115 a grade and CBHS has 300+ a grade and are all boys. They have double the pool of kids to choose from. They are also the oldest private schools in the city. They have longer and older reputations. Briarcrest played in a lower division for years because of all of that. They were nothing more than one of many schools that started after busing in the 70s. MUS has been around since the late 1800s
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How many MUS d1 players Vs BCS, Briarcrest has 3?

Briarcrest has had more than 3 division 1 players. Here's a list for you LINK

Just go search for Briarcrest
This post was edited on 7/26/17 at 1:25 pm
Posted by hubreb
Member since Nov 2008
1843 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 1:17 pm to
Since Oher and Hardy
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 1:20 pm to
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Since Oher and Hardy


Oh, I thought you meant this year.

Posted by UAtide11
Member since Apr 2014
2190 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 1:21 pm to
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Some of these Briarcrest comments are pure BS...i have one kid who graduated from there and another still at the school...Freeze was still the coach there when we started at the school...It is not a weird school..you can get as much or little religion as you want...the sports recruiting is BS, especially compared to CBHS and MUS


I'm not trying to just bash Briarcrest, but it is decidedly more strict and religious than most of the other private schools (MUS, CBHS, SBA, Lausanne, etc.). Some of my very best friends went to Briarcrest and even they would characterize 80%+ of the school as bible-thumping.

Briarcrest was a nothing school up until the early 90s. Then they decided they wanted to be MUS and CBHS, the alumni of which pretty much run the entire city. However, they didn't have the 100+ years of tradition to back it up. You can believe what you want, but MUS and CBHS were never recruiting kids at the level that Briarcrest was.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64549 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 1:22 pm to
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Since Oher and Hardy

Austin Long - UGA
Hunter Long - UGA
Justin Sparks - Ole Miss
Madison Malone - App State
Tray Becton-Martin - Southern miss
Brandon Jackson - Bowling Green
Chris Campbell - Southern Miss
Jerrold Ffrazier - MTSU
Will Barto - Akron
Thomas Farst - Memphis
DJ McNeil - Tenn Martin
Hunter Hill - Memphis

all since Michael Oher and Greg Hardy. And why aren't we talking about two NFL players from the inner city who went to school out in Eads with a bunch of white kids? MUS has had 2 NFL players in the history of the school, one was a punter Tom Hutton, and the other played LB for the Titans in camp before being released and going to med school.
This post was edited on 7/26/17 at 1:23 pm
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25188 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 1:24 pm to
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The making the girl change shirts in office thing happened at my high school on the regular.



Jesus dude, where did you go to school? My last two years of high school was at a Catholic High School with a dress code and if your skirt was to high or they didn't like your shirt they'd just send you home for the day. There wasn't any measuring involved and certainly not changing in the office.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 1:24 pm to
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Briarcrest was a nothing school up until the early 90s



Hey... watch it.
Posted by hubreb
Member since Nov 2008
1843 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 1:25 pm to
Almost all those guys were walk-ons

It is more religious than MUS, Lausanne, Etc...hence the name Briarcrest "Christian" School
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