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re: Question about Freeze and those coaches that wear their faith so openly
Posted on 3/8/17 at 6:00 pm to yatesdog38
Posted on 3/8/17 at 6:00 pm to yatesdog38
Good post about multiple possibilities and how God knows them all but our decisions are made by our free will.
Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run
There's still time to change the road you're on.
And it makes me wonder.
Your head is humming and it won't go, in case you don't know,
The piper's calling you to join him,
Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run
There's still time to change the road you're on.
And it makes me wonder.
Your head is humming and it won't go, in case you don't know,
The piper's calling you to join him,
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 6:10 pm to Othello
quote:Unless you are hit by a bus on the way home from work.
Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run
There's still time to change the road you're on.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 6:23 pm to Diamondawg
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It wasn't directed at you. The guy asked a couple of questions. I don't debate religion with people like you. It's a waste of time. There are plenty others out there that want to learn more. You are set in your opinions and that's fine.
No no... I'm set in facts. The tangible. The testable. Things that can be measured and re measured. That's why I chose to get degrees in physics and biology and not mythology.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 6:27 pm to coachcrisp
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The problem in our society today is that there's a movement to kick Christianity to the curb. Progressive liberals realize that it is a detriment to their agenda and want it destroyed. Christian moral values aren't welcomed under their tent.
Christian moral values? Oh you mean rape, slavery, and child abuse. Yeah... those things don't really cut it with most sane human beings.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 6:39 pm to coachcrisp
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Did I say persecuted? In every aspect of American life, there is pressure being applied to remove any reference to Christianity.....and if you're oblivious to that fact, I'd question your intelligence....or honesty.
So gay people can get married now. Boo fricking hoo.
Religion has no business being taught in public schools. It's not education, it's brainwashing.
Other groups getting the same rights does not equal the other group losing theirs. Not one single Christian church has been shut down by the government. Not a single law has been made to prohibit Christians from worshiping. ( don't use public schools for your argument here because no child has ever been stoped from saying a silent prayer in any school). Christians churches are STILL TAX EXEMPT EVEN THOUGH MAMY OF THEIR PASTORS TALK POLITICS FROM THEIR PULPITS.
In fact, the taxpayers in Kentucky had to help pay for that stupid creationist museum that is now going bankrupt.
Religion has been the bane of humanity ever since we created it.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 6:41 pm to AshLSU
I take Christian moral values from The Ten Commandments, and I don't believe that you're going to find rape, slavery or child abuse anywhere in them. As has been stated many times in this thread, man is sinful and always falls short of God's example. If you're looking for Christians who sin, we're not hard to find.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 6:43 pm to AshLSU
I don't want to get into all of this.
This post was edited on 3/8/17 at 6:56 pm
Posted on 3/8/17 at 6:56 pm to AshLSU
quote:From the time and effort you've invested in this thread, it's obvious that you have more than a passing interest in the subject. That type of hatred can't be good for anyone. Good luck.
So gay people can get married now. Boo fricking hoo.
Religion has no business being taught in public schools. It's not education, it's brainwashing.
Other groups getting the same rights does not equal the other group losing theirs. Not one single Christian church has been shut down by the government. Not a single law has been made to prohibit Christians from worshiping. ( don't use public schools for your argument here because no child has ever been stoped from saying a silent prayer in any school). Christians churches are STILL TAX EXEMPT EVEN THOUGH MAMY OF THEIR PASTORS TALK POLITICS FROM THEIR PULPITS.
In fact, the taxpayers in Kentucky had to help pay for that stupid creationist museum that is now going bankrupt.
Religion has been the bane of humanity ever since we created it.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 7:10 pm to AshLSU
It's hard to have a rational discussion with religious people because it always comes back to faith. That is the trump card. Anything that can't be explained is just explained away as having faith. I just can't imagine gobbling down something as fact that was written thousands of years ago by people who believed all kinds of crazy shite during that time period.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 7:22 pm to peepingcrxxms
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I just can't imagine gobbling down something as fact that was written thousands of years ago by people who believed all kinds of crazy shite during that time period.
Ok guy, religion started with the birth of christ and hasn't been a part of humanity since the beginning of time. I'll believe in an elephant with 10 arms if it gets me where I'm going next but that's not the path that was laid before me. You're right, God is an idea. It also needs a name and a face for something to grab on to.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 7:35 pm to hogNsinceReagan
Holy wow.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 7:41 pm to Diamondawg
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I don't want to get into all of this.
Probably best, because accusing your opponent of being too set in their opinion to listen is just cheap because he could make the exact same accusation with regards to you, and it would be equally cheap. It's a cop-out, intellectually and ethically, an attempt to make your opponent seem unreasonable to excuse your unwillingness to engage. Just say you don't care to discuss the topic with someone who strongly disagrees with you and you strongly disagree with. It's much more honest and a perfectly acceptable reason.
This post was edited on 3/8/17 at 7:43 pm
Posted on 3/8/17 at 8:01 pm to randomways
quote:Actually, it's more about critical pathways and efficiency. I do not waste my time arguing things that I can't win or lose. He has his beliefs and that's fine. I prefer to spend my time with those that are at least willing to listen. I spend time in a prison ministry and even though many of them have never been exposed to it, they are at least willing to listen. They receive or they don't. I can't control that.
Probably best, because accusing your opponent of being too set in their opinion to listen is just cheap because he could make the exact same accusation with regards to you, and it would be equally cheap. It's a cop-out, intellectually and ethically, an attempt to make your opponent seem unreasonable to excuse your unwillingness to engage. Just say you don't care to discuss the topic with someone who strongly disagrees with you and you strongly disagree with. It's much more honest and a perfectly acceptable reason.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 8:09 pm to Covingtontiger77
Devil worshipers always pretend to be devout Christians. Freeze got that last name due to the fact that he is always comfortably cold even when he is around fire and brimstone.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 8:19 pm to coachcrisp
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From the time and effort you've invested in this thread, it's obvious that you have more than a passing interest in the subject. That type of hatred can't be good for anyone. Good luck.
It's not hatred. I feel sorry for people who aren't open minded enough to accept the truth or that we're just brainwashed as children into believing something with no physical evidence.
You do realize that you are only Christian based on the geographical location of your birth right? Had you been born in India for example, you would be just as devout about Hinduism, or born in Saudi Arabia you would be Muslim. It's not like children are born already knowing about Christianity.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 8:21 pm to coachcrisp
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I take Christian moral values from The Ten Commandments, and I don't believe that you're going to find rape, slavery or child abuse anywhere in them. As has been stated many times in this thread, man is sinful and always falls short of God's example. If you're looking for Christians who sin, we're not hard to find.
You do realize that the 10 commandments are not a Christian idea right? It's Jewish.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 8:24 pm to randomways
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Probably best, because accusing your opponent of being too set in their opinion to listen is just cheap because he could make the exact same accusation with regards to you, and it would be equally cheap. It's a cop-out, intellectually and ethically, an attempt to make your opponent seem unreasonable to excuse your unwillingness to engage. Just say you don't care to discuss the topic with someone who strongly disagrees with you and you strongly disagree with. It's much more honest and a perfectly acceptable reason.
Actually what it is saying is "I got nothing to dispute the argument you laid before me and it's making me have a case of cognitive dissonance therefore I'm not going to talk about it any further".
Posted on 3/8/17 at 8:27 pm to AshLSU
quote:So had you been born in Auburn, Al., you would be an Auburn fan and Sociology major?
You do realize that you are only Christian based on the geographical location of your birth right?
Posted on 3/8/17 at 8:59 pm to Diamondawg
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So had you been born in Auburn, Al., you would be an Auburn fan and Sociology major?
That's not even close to the same thing but since you mention it. Had my father and grandfather both graduated from some other college than LSU, chances are I would have gone to that college unless it didn't offer my major.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 9:02 pm to Diamondawg
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Actually, it's more about critical pathways and efficiency. I do not waste my time arguing things that I can't win or lose. He has his beliefs and that's fine. I prefer to spend my time with those that are at least willing to listen. I spend time in a prison ministry and even though many of them have never been exposed to it, they are at least willing to listen. They receive or they don't. I can't control that.
So you are upset because someone doesn't want to listen to your beliefs that you have no physical evidence to support?
Would you really hear me out if I was in here preaching satanism? I highly doubt it since you won't even hear me out when talking about science.
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