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Pulse of the SEC Rant on the Les Miles firing? What's the feeling.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 8:18 am
Posted on 9/26/16 at 8:18 am
Trolling off.
Are fans of other schools criticizing this move? Is it the move itself, or how it was conducted (mid season).
How I see it..fan support would have been completely done. They did this to save face with the fan base and create new energy. Miles wasn't getting it done. He was recruiting elite talent but wasn't putting anything near an elite product on the field.
The next hire may not be spectacular. It might take a few more. But the bottom line is, the wheels are in motion for progress. LSU was in complete limbo with Les.
Are fans of other schools criticizing this move? Is it the move itself, or how it was conducted (mid season).
How I see it..fan support would have been completely done. They did this to save face with the fan base and create new energy. Miles wasn't getting it done. He was recruiting elite talent but wasn't putting anything near an elite product on the field.
The next hire may not be spectacular. It might take a few more. But the bottom line is, the wheels are in motion for progress. LSU was in complete limbo with Les.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 8:20 am to VermilionTiger
I find him extremely likable and it's one of those things that deep down is very sad to actually see happen.
His clock management and QB development were terrible. The rest of his offenses did what they were supposed to do, and his defense was obviously always great.
He'll pick up a fat contract and the SEC has lost a great personality. I don't blame LSU for the move though, I think the program and the coach will benefit from a fresh start apart.
If Malzahn were fired I wouldn't be opposed to us getting Miles, but I'd have some limited reservations as well.
ETA: I did not anticipate this timing for either of our schools. I thought this game would serve as when the thin ice broke for one of our coaches, but I expected either of them to coach out the rest of the season. For a guy who has given you a natty and made you a contender more years than not, it is a little ridiculous to fire him on the spot 4 games in.
His clock management and QB development were terrible. The rest of his offenses did what they were supposed to do, and his defense was obviously always great.
He'll pick up a fat contract and the SEC has lost a great personality. I don't blame LSU for the move though, I think the program and the coach will benefit from a fresh start apart.
If Malzahn were fired I wouldn't be opposed to us getting Miles, but I'd have some limited reservations as well.
ETA: I did not anticipate this timing for either of our schools. I thought this game would serve as when the thin ice broke for one of our coaches, but I expected either of them to coach out the rest of the season. For a guy who has given you a natty and made you a contender more years than not, it is a little ridiculous to fire him on the spot 4 games in.
This post was edited on 9/26/16 at 8:23 am
Posted on 9/26/16 at 8:20 am to VermilionTiger
don't care one way or another.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 8:20 am to VermilionTiger
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Are fans of other schools criticizing this move?
Yes.
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Is it the move itself, or how it was conducted (mid season)?
Mid-season was a real dumb move. Thanks for the recruits!
Whether or not it was a good move depends on the replacement hire.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 8:21 am to VermilionTiger
I genuinely have the feels for Les Miles. Apparently the team really has been shocked by all of this. They loved Les. The man won a lot of football games and even a national championship. I really hope LSU experiences 5-6 years of strife.
This post was edited on 9/26/16 at 8:22 am
Posted on 9/26/16 at 8:21 am to VermilionTiger
I understand it, but am sad.
Think he is a great guy.
With hindsight, I wish he could have left on a high after the last big win last season.
But, he is rich and seems to be in good health so I am sure he will be fine after the sting wears off.
I am also glad Cameron was not canned until after AU game, but that is just because I think that was what helped with the ugly win.
Think he is a great guy.
With hindsight, I wish he could have left on a high after the last big win last season.
But, he is rich and seems to be in good health so I am sure he will be fine after the sting wears off.
I am also glad Cameron was not canned until after AU game, but that is just because I think that was what helped with the ugly win.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 8:21 am to VermilionTiger
Should've fired him at the end of last season, but this does give LSU a head start in the coach hunt this season.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 8:22 am to VermilionTiger
Can't blame the move but find it hard to believe the next coach will replicate the success of your last two.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 8:22 am to VermilionTiger
I understand the firing but don't like the timing. Either should have fired him end of last year or waited until the end of this year.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 8:22 am to VermilionTiger
IMHO letting Miles stay the extra 4 games was a terrible call. If LSU was gonna fire him anyway, he should have been fired last year. Now LF7s final year is ruined. LSU will be lucky to find 4 more wins to go 6-6 (not trolling, complete honesty). It also makes LSU look like a volatile career choice for on the rise coaches. If LSU is so spoiled, why would Herman want to come coach there? He could go to USC and win much easier without the pressure of unrealistic expectations. Recruitment is another issue. Recruits don't like uncertainty in coaching. Aggy, Bama, and Arky will clean up.
Art Briles is looking for a job. He doesn't care where he goes, and that may be the edge for LSU to get him.
Art Briles is looking for a job. He doesn't care where he goes, and that may be the edge for LSU to get him.
This post was edited on 9/26/16 at 8:24 am
Posted on 9/26/16 at 8:23 am to VermilionTiger
I find it another botched move by the LSU AD and his staff. But that's not surprising given their attempt to hire a coach last season.
With that said, LSU has way too much talent to be 2-2. Was it a short leash, yes. Will it work out for them, only time will tell.
With that said, LSU has way too much talent to be 2-2. Was it a short leash, yes. Will it work out for them, only time will tell.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 8:24 am to imjustafatkid
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Mid-season was a real dumb move. Thanks for the recruits!
The timing does a few things. One, it gets rid of the possibility of having to fire an 7,8 or 9 win coach which would've looked even worse. Second, it lets everyone know, especially the fans, that LSU is done with the status quo that has become apparent with a Les Miles team. Enough was enough and it was time to pull the trigger.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 8:24 am to imjustafatkid
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Mid-season was a real dumb move. Thanks for the recruits!
It wouldn't have mattered. The current recruiting class was always going to fall apart once Miles was fired. Sure it gives others more time to turn them, but everyone was already negatively recruiting LSU's commits with the "Les isn't going to be there next year" pitch.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 8:24 am to imjustafatkid
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Mid-season was a real dumb move. Thanks for the recruits!
It wouldn't have mattered. The current recruiting class was always going to fall apart once Miles was fired. Sure it gives others more time to turn them, but everyone was already negatively recruiting LSU's commits with the "Les isn't going to be there next year" pitch.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 8:24 am to VermilionTiger
The extremely high standards down in BR have made that job one of the toughest (if not the toughest) in the country. You pretty much have to compete for a chip all the way until the end or everyone is going to hate you and you're stuck in the toughest division in football.
They probably had to fire him just because everyone wanted it so bad, but I'm about 65% sure they'll regret it in the near future. Or they may get Saban 2.0. Anything is possible.
They probably had to fire him just because everyone wanted it so bad, but I'm about 65% sure they'll regret it in the near future. Or they may get Saban 2.0. Anything is possible.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 8:25 am to imjustafatkid
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Thanks for the recruits!
Useless argument considering that he was going to be a lame duck the rest of the way and that recruits would question his job status. You might as well pull the plug now in that situation.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 8:25 am to VermilionTiger
Should have fired him at the end of last season or at the end of this season. I see no value in firing him now.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 8:26 am to VermilionTiger
I also think part of the reason he wasn't fired last year was to hang onto some guys you needed that might have gone elsewhere if Miles was fired.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 8:26 am to VermilionTiger
Its pretty stupid, feel really bad for fournette and the players. Classless move by lsu to not even let the season play out.
Even if the next saban comes to lsu, he wont be lookig to stay. Win a NC and some secc's but god forbid you lose two games, youll be fired midseason.
Even if the next saban comes to lsu, he wont be lookig to stay. Win a NC and some secc's but god forbid you lose two games, youll be fired midseason.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 8:26 am to VermilionTiger
Hate it because Les is a great guy and a colorful personality. But I don't blame you for the move - the program is clearly regressing, and it's not for lack of talent.
I'm old school on finishing the football season. Except in the most extreme circumstances, you don't fire a coach midseason, and if you're a coach, you don't leave midseason. It's a matter of integrity. As to whether it was a good move strategically, we'll see.
I'm old school on finishing the football season. Except in the most extreme circumstances, you don't fire a coach midseason, and if you're a coach, you don't leave midseason. It's a matter of integrity. As to whether it was a good move strategically, we'll see.
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