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re: Predict the 2014 NFL Draft Order of these Four SEC Quarterbacks

Posted on 10/3/13 at 12:35 pm to
Posted by td01241
Savannah
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Posted on 10/3/13 at 12:35 pm to
I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure Murray has insane stats when facing a blitz.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
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Posted on 10/3/13 at 12:45 pm to
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JM ran a hand timed 4.7, he is no where near Vick in athleticism


JM is way faster than 4.7 bro. open your eyes. He's definitely not the same caliber athlete as Vick but he plays with a similar style.

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JM throws a football like he is throwing a baseball.


I don't think so. maybe some times. I always say that Colin Kaepernick throws like he is throwing a baseball (and runs like he is holding a large taco bell cup), but I think Johnny has a better throwing motion than that. He definitely needs to check his footwork, but I think he can do that and do it well. he just plays reckless sometimes and that's when you see a lot of the sloppy footwork.
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
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Posted on 10/3/13 at 12:58 pm to
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JM is way faster than 4.7 bro.

Probably somewhere between 4.5 and 4.6
Posted by uabtodd
Moody, AL
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 10/3/13 at 1:19 pm to
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Mett reminds me of Big Ben

they have similar interests in extracurricular activities, don't they?
Posted by Uptown Oyster
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2013
278 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 1:22 pm to
1. Dr. Bro Wallace
2. JFF
3. AJ McCannon
4. Mettsiah
5. Aaron "I'm Undersized But I Try Really Hard" Murray
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 10/3/13 at 1:25 pm to
Mett - fits most NFL offenses
McCarron - fits offenses but arm is question mark
Murry - size is a liability
Manziel - only fits a very few NFL offenses. Philly's offense is view by most GM's as a gimmick.
Posted by RBWilliams8
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 10/3/13 at 1:31 pm to
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Mett reminds me of Big Ben


:rapistburger:
Posted by NewArmyAg
Texas
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 10/3/13 at 2:02 pm to
Yeah is around 4.5. LINK

I don't where they saw 4.7...
This post was edited on 10/3/13 at 2:04 pm
Posted by bearhc
Member since Sep 2009
4936 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 2:10 pm to
Mettenberger
McCarron
Murray
Manziel
Posted by A_Leather_Glove
Behind a podium
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/3/13 at 2:18 pm to
Mettenberger - 14
Manziel - 29
Murray - 61
McCarron - 71
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 10/3/13 at 2:28 pm to
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Zach Mettenberger
A.J. McCarron
Aaron Murray
Johnny Manziel


A.J. Derby











Everyone else
Posted by MIZ_STL
ABQ
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 10/3/13 at 2:31 pm to
Zach Mettenberger
A.J. McCarron
Aaron Murray
Johnny Manziel
Posted by t - cam
Dallas
Member since Sep 2012
332 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 2:50 pm to
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This is so wrong. JM ran a hand timed 4.7, he is no where near Vick in athleticism. RW has damn near perfect mechanics and has top 10 footwork as a qb. JM throws a football like he is throwing a baseball.







Something tells me you haven't been watching the games this year. When in the pocket Manziel's footwork and throwing motion are very traditional now. I have heard straight from draft guys.

He is likely not as fast as vick but he is every bit the athlete. Supposedly has the best verticle on the A&M team not to mention his abilities in almost all other sports. Could have been a d1 Baseball, Golf and I have hard possibly basketball player.
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 10/3/13 at 3:09 pm to
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Manziel in Philadelphia could be sick if Chip last's that long.
That would be a disastrously bad fit. Kelly has a system where the intent is little/no improvising; everything is quick and based on matchups at the snap. He is trying to scheme to where you don't ever have to extend the play, but instead you see what the defense gives you and take it every time. Then you run back to the line and do it again and again. Manziel's biggest attribute is improvising and extending plays.

They'd hate each other by mid-season.
Posted by cribbsjy
Member since Jul 2013
251 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 3:13 pm to
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That would be a disastrously bad fit. Kelly has a system where the intent is little/no improvising; everything is quick and based on matchups at the snap. He is trying to scheme to where you don't ever have to extend the play, but instead you see what the defense gives you and take it every time. Then you run back to the line and do it again and again. Manziel's biggest attribute is improvising and extending plays.

They'd hate each other by mid-season.


How about Mariota in Chip Kelly's offense? Something tells me they may be successful if they were to work together.
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 10/3/13 at 3:14 pm to
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McCarron - skills are middle of the road but his consistency is the best. he will impress teams with his maturity. Very similar to Matt Ryan. Safest pick but not the first pick.


Matt Ryan is a good comparison.
Ryan throws a damn good deep ball (I mean 50+ yds in the air); he's done this a good bit over the past couple years. The pass to Jones against NE; last year to Roddy White against Carolina, etc. I don't think McCarron has anywhere near the same arm.
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 10/3/13 at 3:14 pm to
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Manziel Mettenberger Murray McCarron
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 10/3/13 at 3:47 pm to
Manziel - Some crappy team will take him real early to sell jerseys. At best: Wilson. At worst: Eric Crouch(switches from QB to S or slot)

Mett - Biggest arm, highest upside, biggest risk because of a small sample size. Think he tears it up at the combine though and jumps Murray. At best: Flacco/Cutler. At worst: Josh Freeman

Murray - Quick decision making, High football IQ, great mechanics. At best: Dalton. At worst: Flynn

AJ - IMO, the biggest question mark. He could be great, he could be horrible. At best: Eli. At Worst: Leinart

IMO, Murray is the safest pick. He might not be a great starter, but he will be good enough to be a starter or 1 of the best clipboard /backup QBs in the game. Extremely smart and makes quick decisions.Could have the longest career of all these QBs.

Manziel is 1 of those picks that can make or break an organization / coach. If hes great, its an awesome pick. If hes not, the organization is setback 5 years and the coach gets fired. Very volatile and it will take the right kind of coach to keep him focused on football.

Mett is a pro-type gun slinging QB. He can win you games with his arm, and he can lose you games with his arm. Will throw a bunch of TDs, and INTs. Trusts his arm way too much. Similar to Jay Cutler.

AJ - Biggest question mark IMO. Has the awesome college resume. But, was he just a "game manager" that played with an awesome D and had great RBs / OL? Or, was he a great QB that made the game plan / RBs look great? I remember Eli Manning being tagged a game manager throughout his career.

Regardless of where these 4 go, the top 3 QBs in the country that are draft eligible are Bridgewater, Boyd, and Hundley from UCLA. So if these 3 all come out, and the 4 from the SEC, thats 7 potential 1st round QBs. Dont see that happening. Those 3 are 1st rounders, then I could see Manziel and Mett sliding in the 1st, while Murray goes early 2nd and McCarron late 2nd.
This post was edited on 10/3/13 at 3:57 pm
Posted by Edearl Watson
Parts Unknown
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 10/3/13 at 3:49 pm to
AJ
Manziel
Mett
Murray



This post was edited on 10/3/13 at 3:51 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 4:54 pm to
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Something tells me you haven't been watching the games this year. When in the pocket Manziel's footwork and throwing motion are very traditional now. I have heard straight from draft guys.



You mean the same draft guys that said Barrett Jones was a first rounder and Craig Loston was the best safety in the sec?
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