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plagiarizing a legacy: Saban
Posted on 12/23/15 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 12/23/15 at 1:33 pm
Coaching is dynamic, but I've often wondered why someone hasn't photocopied Nicks recipe/procedure to a measurable extent. I think a lot of that plays into decisions like Smart to UGA. Hoping he can channel the process; however, it just never seems to take off.
Goes to show you that the personal intensity is critical........plus having #1 recruiting classes year in and year out.
Goes to show you that the personal intensity is critical........plus having #1 recruiting classes year in and year out.
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Posted on 12/23/15 at 1:35 pm to CharlesLSU
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Goes to show you that the personal intensity is critical........
Yes, you have to know whose arse to chew out and when.
No process can replicate that.
Posted on 12/23/15 at 1:36 pm to CharlesLSU
I think Saban's it factor is his ability to control a thousand different systems at once. It's a kind of intelligence and force of personality, can't be duplicated
This post was edited on 12/23/15 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 12/23/15 at 1:37 pm to CharlesLSU
Most important ingredient is boosters and bagmen willing to outbid the competition
Posted on 12/23/15 at 1:38 pm to CharlesLSU
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.plus having #1 recruiting classes year in and year out.
Saban doesn't just snap his fingers to have #1 recruiting classes. He has spent years learning which players to go after for his system. Plus, he may be the hardest working coach in the business. That is where he passes all others and makes up for his deficiencies as a game day coach.
Posted on 12/23/15 at 1:38 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Most important ingredient is boosters and bagmen willing to outbid the competition
quote:I'll take your word for it
Auburn fan
Posted on 12/23/15 at 1:41 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
quote:Like paying for a $180,000 MNC encouched in mediocre-to-shitty-to-disappointing seasons?
Most important ingredient is boosters and bagmen willing to outbid the competition
This post was edited on 12/23/15 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 12/23/15 at 1:41 pm to CharlesLSU
It's an interesting topic. Two thoughts
1) There has to be some innate or honed credibility from the coach in question. Saban has that, I'm not sure Kirby will. Doesn't mean the framework can't still be successful, I'm just not sure we can expect similar results.
2) Some of that credibility factor is from external forces. For Saban, it was the media and being at a program like Alabama. When Saban returned to NCAA it was on the wings of media gushing about how instantly he'd turn around Alabama and how recruits should feel graced if he calls upon them. Now, that makes a lot of sense. Then, the history didn't necessarily support it in the manner it does today. It was self-fulfilling.
1) There has to be some innate or honed credibility from the coach in question. Saban has that, I'm not sure Kirby will. Doesn't mean the framework can't still be successful, I'm just not sure we can expect similar results.
2) Some of that credibility factor is from external forces. For Saban, it was the media and being at a program like Alabama. When Saban returned to NCAA it was on the wings of media gushing about how instantly he'd turn around Alabama and how recruits should feel graced if he calls upon them. Now, that makes a lot of sense. Then, the history didn't necessarily support it in the manner it does today. It was self-fulfilling.
Posted on 12/23/15 at 1:42 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
This guy gets it.
Posted on 12/23/15 at 1:42 pm to asphinctersayswhat
Yea. His recruiting is more hard chemistry than others. I've seen him target some 3 star players that turned out to be jewels.
Posted on 12/23/15 at 1:42 pm to Aubie Spr96
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This guy gets it...
...from behind.
I'm kidding, TnM
Posted on 12/23/15 at 1:44 pm to CharlesLSU
Dantonio and Fisher seem to be doing well.
Posted on 12/23/15 at 1:45 pm to UAFanFromNOLA
true. Dantonio was with Saban?
This post was edited on 12/23/15 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 12/23/15 at 1:46 pm to genro
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's a kind of intelligence and force of personality, can't be duplicated
Patriots say whaaaa?
Saban is Top 5 all time, no doubt.
Posted on 12/23/15 at 1:47 pm to CharlesLSU
So what is considered his tree at this point?
Muschamp-USCe
Jimbo-FSU
Smart-UGA
Mac-UF
Is that it? And how long does one need to coach under another coach in order to be considered a part of a tree?
Muschamp-USCe
Jimbo-FSU
Smart-UGA
Mac-UF
Is that it? And how long does one need to coach under another coach in order to be considered a part of a tree?
Posted on 12/23/15 at 1:47 pm to lsusteve1
quote:I don't think the Patriots are copying the Alabama blueprint. I don't think Bama is copying the Patriots blueprint.
Patriots say whaaaa?
I think Belichick and Saban are very special individuals.
Posted on 12/23/15 at 1:47 pm to lsusteve1
Saban will go down as the best in NCAA history.
Posted on 12/23/15 at 1:49 pm to G8RnGA
Jimbo is succeeding. Mac looks promising and jury is out on Smart obviously.
Posted on 12/23/15 at 1:49 pm to CharlesLSU
There is only one Saban. Nobody can duplicate his coaching skills, recruiting ability, and his demand for perfection. There are better football coaches that can teach the game out there than him.
He is great because he gets the best players and puts them in the right places and demands they perform and they listen. That makes him the best Head Coach of all time in my opinion.
He is great because he gets the best players and puts them in the right places and demands they perform and they listen. That makes him the best Head Coach of all time in my opinion.
Posted on 12/23/15 at 1:50 pm to genro
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don't think the Patriots are copying the Alabama blueprint. I don't think Bama is copying the Patriots blueprint.
The need for control of all things is a trait of both NS & BB.
Bill just has a knack for getting guys that work in his system....same as NS
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