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Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:42 pm to SunHog
SunHog almost got it right. Arkansas hiring Bielema made EVERYONE's job tougher.
I'm not even saying we're a sleeping giant. We've made an unfortunate series of the wrong coaching hires since Peepaw fired Lou Holtz.
Jimmy Johnson was placed at OSU for when the Arkansas job opened up. Broyles reneged and the U got turned 4 notches.
Hired Jack Crowe, that lasted about a day. Didn't give Joe Kines a legit chance, brought Danny Ford in after he'd been out of the game and relevant for a few years, basically as a slight to Clemson who hired Hatfield.
Could've had Tubbs going into his prime, somehow hired Nutt.
Basically had Muschamp, Petrino swooped in at the last minute.
Bielema, finally, is the perfect mix of everything we value as a culture, fanbase, state, etc. His strengths are what have been weaknesses in the program for 20 years. This guy is not an idiot, he's got the values that resonate with 80% of the state, and he's affable to the media and seems to know how to not say the wrong thigs or act like an embarrassment.
Get your licks in on us in 2013, it'll be your only chance.
I'm not even saying we're a sleeping giant. We've made an unfortunate series of the wrong coaching hires since Peepaw fired Lou Holtz.
Jimmy Johnson was placed at OSU for when the Arkansas job opened up. Broyles reneged and the U got turned 4 notches.
Hired Jack Crowe, that lasted about a day. Didn't give Joe Kines a legit chance, brought Danny Ford in after he'd been out of the game and relevant for a few years, basically as a slight to Clemson who hired Hatfield.
Could've had Tubbs going into his prime, somehow hired Nutt.
Basically had Muschamp, Petrino swooped in at the last minute.
Bielema, finally, is the perfect mix of everything we value as a culture, fanbase, state, etc. His strengths are what have been weaknesses in the program for 20 years. This guy is not an idiot, he's got the values that resonate with 80% of the state, and he's affable to the media and seems to know how to not say the wrong thigs or act like an embarrassment.
Get your licks in on us in 2013, it'll be your only chance.
This post was edited on 12/7/12 at 8:57 pm
Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:45 pm to CtotheVrzrbck
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Broyles renigged
Lol. Wut?
Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:55 pm to the808bass
my bad, typed that phonetically. lemme edit.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:56 pm to SunHog
fricking Sunhog and his shitty passive aggressive/concern trolls.
What an idiot.
What an idiot.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:17 pm to Mizzeaux
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Impossible! Illinois has 33% more black people than Alabama.
As I said, dumb premise is dumb.
Illinois has 16% minority with 13 million people.
Alabama has 26% minority with 5 million people.
NFL talent from High School's of each state since 2005:
Alabama 46
Illinois 31
Do you understand the data or not? It's obvious Missouri is missing out by not recruiting Illinois much better.
This post was edited on 12/7/12 at 9:18 pm
Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:23 pm to SunHog
Speaking of recruiting....your new head coach isn't much of a recruiter himself. How about you worry about your own dumpster fire Sunhog?
You're a pussy. You were nowhere to be found during this season while the dumpster fires were burning bright in Fayetteville. Now you come out of hiding because Arkansas hired a new coach to renew your terrible arse trolling?
Like I said. You're a pussy and a shitty poster.
You're a shite stain Sunhog.
You're a pussy. You were nowhere to be found during this season while the dumpster fires were burning bright in Fayetteville. Now you come out of hiding because Arkansas hired a new coach to renew your terrible arse trolling?
Like I said. You're a pussy and a shitty poster.
You're a shite stain Sunhog.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:32 pm to kilo
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Speaking of recruiting....your new head coach isn't much of a recruiter himself. How about you worry about your own dumpster fire Sunhog?
You're a pussy. You were nowhere to be found during this season while the dumpster fires were burning bright in Fayetteville. Now you come out of hiding because Arkansas hired a new coach to renew your terrible arse trolling?
Like I said. You're a pussy and a shitty poster.
You're a shite stain Sunhog.
What dumpster fire do you speak of now?
I have been here all season please click on my post history as I went no where.
Don't make me leave a mushroom stamp on your cheek. Luckily for you I am just not in the mood to frick your face at the moment, sorry.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:33 pm to SunHog
Your point was that Missouri not fitting in was because we didn't have nearly enough people identifying themselves as black, since that (according to this thread so far) is the determining factor of a state's football talent level. I said it was dumb. Alabama has significantly less black people than Illinois, and yet miraculously produces more NFL players. South Carolina Mississippi have high percentage of black people, and yet they haven't been huge football powerhouses. You say we have the same "intangibles" and "resources" as Kentucky, so we'll be the same. Which was nice bait, but again, dumb premise is dumb.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:37 pm to Mizzeaux
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Your point was that Missouri not fitting
Never said that. Asked how y'all plan to be successful with limited resources and geography challenge?
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since that (according to this thread so far) is the determining factor of a state's football talent level.
Majority of players are black is this new to you?
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Alabama has significantly less black people than Illinois, and yet miraculously produces more NFL players.
Because of the system... refer to my chart, smart one.
Less players ages 15-19 per population play football in Missouri and Illinois than Arkansas and Alabama.
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South Carolina Mississippi have high percentage of black people, and yet they haven't been huge football powerhouses.
The go to schools like Alabama and UGA.
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You say we have the same "intangibles" and "resources" as Kentucky, so we'll be the same. Which was nice bait, but again, dumb premise is dumb.
Yes.
This post was edited on 12/7/12 at 9:38 pm
Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:39 pm to SunHog
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What dumpster fire do you speak of now?
Really?
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I have been here all season please click on my post history as I went no where.
You were not around the SECr to defend your shitty prognosticating over the summer. You went full pussy this fall and left the good Hog posters to weather the shite storm.
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Don't make me leave a mushroom stamp on your cheek. Luckily for you I am just not in the mood to frick your face at the moment, sorry.
What are you, 15? Jesus Christ you're a fricking piece of shite.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:40 pm to kilo
Is this where the Internet bad arse meme reply goes?
Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:40 pm to Mizzeaux
frick this clown. Same shite he pulled all last season and off season.
RA and move on.
RA and move on.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:46 pm to SunHog
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Never said that. Asked how y'all plan to be successful with limited resources and geography challenge?
By investing our (apparently) limited resources wisely and recruiting.
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Majority of players are black is this new to you?
And yet very few players are coming from Africa. I wonder if there's something else involved?
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Because of the system... refer to my chart, smart one.
Less players ages 15-19 per population play football in Missouri and Illinois than Arkansas and Alabama.
Yes, the map you posted two pages and an hour after the Hugo's map showing we're out of the game because Missouri isn't black enough. System I can agree with, but that was an amendment to the original statements that were made.
System is a key, and if that would have been your original statement I'd be likely to agree. However, it wasn't.
Not to mention the players per 1,000 on FBS rosters in Missouri is equal to horrible football talent producing states like Illinois, Pennsylvania, and Michigan.
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The go to schools like Alabama and UGA.
But, but, but, USC, Ole Miss, and MSU are so much closer to those kids in that huge talent pool and we both know kids won't travel outside of their area to play football.
I don't know how I bit, but there you go.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:46 pm to kilo
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Really
Yes, what dumpster fire now? We have a great coach, new facilities being built and stadium expansion on the way not to mention energized fan base again.
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You were not around the SECr to defend your shitty prognosticating over the summer. You went full pussy this fall and left the good Hog posters to weather the shite storm.
What was there to defend I guess you missed all my threads about firing John L midseason would probably be less harmful than keeping him until the end.
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What are you, 15? Jesus Christ you're a fricking piece of shite.
I have you so hooked it's comical. I need you cuss a little more and continue to bump my threads. You make me hard with your girly emotion.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:46 pm to mograyback
Do Arkansas and Missouri even compete for recruits?
Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:52 pm to Mizzeaux
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And yet very few players are coming from Africa. I wonder if there's something else involved?
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Not to mention the players per 1,000 on FBS rosters in Missouri is equal to horrible football talent producing states like Illinois, Pennsylvania, and Michigan.
Kinda funny that Ohio is 12% black with 12 million people and a great system putting 15-19 year old in pads.
They put more NFL players in the pro's from the High School's than Alabama, Georgia and Louisiana.
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But, but, but, USC, Ole Miss, and MSU are so much closer to those kids in that huge talent pool and we both know kids won't travel outside of their area to play football.
If Mississippi didn't have Alabama and LSU so close who's stadiums and coaching have been so much better they would have an easier time recruiting. Not to mention dividing up the state with two schools.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:53 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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Do Arkansas and Missouri even compete for recruits?
Si senor. We flip the ones we want, and lead Mizzou on wild goose chases eating up resources and valuable time on the ones that are overhyped. :inb4standardtflagshipspin:
Posted on 12/7/12 at 10:02 pm to SunHog
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You make me hard with your girly emotion.
No one wants to know this. At least on this board. Trust me.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 10:03 pm to SunHog
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Yes, what dumpster fire now? We have a great coach, new facilities being built and stadium expansion on the way not to mention energized fan base again.
Said in every offseason since Arky was gifted the SEC. Re-energization champions.
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