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re: Perfect time to split from NCAA
Posted on 2/16/14 at 5:17 pm to nc14
Posted on 2/16/14 at 5:17 pm to nc14
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Melt continues.
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nc14
Because you, in your infinite wisdom, have decided that this needed to be said for the hundredth time, I'm picking you in particular.
Let's back up here.
1. Saban realizes that he has a chink in his defensive armor. Mentions 2 years ago what was as bullshite then as it is now...that the HUNH is a safety issues.
2. Saban loses to a HUNH team...wins the national championship anyway. Won, but still has concerns. Begins to piss and moan more frequently, along with his obese counterpart in Arkansas.
3. Saban loses to its biggest rival, also a HUNH team, knocking them out of the conference championship and national championship picture...then loses to ANOTHER HUNH team..badly.
4. Becomes VERY vocal about the "safety" issues created by the HUNH.
5. Invites himself to (or is invited, depending on who you ask) a rules committee meeting during a non-rules year to discuss this "safety" issue. Fat Arky coach has some Sherpas push him over in a wheelbarrow as well. The committee does not invite anyone with an opposing view point. The committee is "moved" by their presentation. Decides they need to hear no more from anyone else in spite of a complete lack of evidence supporting their "safety" claims.
6. People with, at a minimum, a pulse and some active brain cells, take one look at this and sees it for what it is...a non-safety issue that was presented under false pretenses to have it considered in a non-rules year, a rule that would bend the game to the strengths and against the weaknesses on ONE prominent coach and one fat wannabe.
7. Polls are unilateral and OVERWHELMINGLY against the change.
8. With exception to Paul Finebaum who is trying to pretend to be neutral, every last journalist with a column or a microphone is making fun of Saban and the Arky coach. This has been discussed nationwide...find me ONE journalist that is in favor of the rule change.
9. Coaches, who normally don't throw each other under the bus if their name isn't Steve Spurrier, have been doing exactly that...HUNH and non-HUNH coaches alike...outside of the aforementioned coaches, Todd berry and Troy Calhoun, the rest of the coaching world is either silent or against. It is overwhelming.
10. We wait for the "rubber stamp" committee to examine comments from other AD's and coaches.
You see, this whole thing has been a travesty...from the lack of integrity in misrepresenting the proposed rule change, to not allowing any opposing viewpoint but asking (or allowing) 2 coaches to speak to a subject no one else even knew was being discussed. That's not my opinion. It is an overwhelming national consensus.
If Gus Malzahn and Hugh Freeze walked into a rules committee, unbeknownst to no one, and convinced the rules committee to change the play clock to 20 seconds, and require the quarterback to rush at least 25% of offense plays, you gumps would be furious. And you would be right to be furious. And you know what the only dumb shite anyone could say to criticize the fact that you are upset about it and rightly so?
"The melt continues". You are right about one thing, troll. The melt is continuing. Only it's by fans of a team that finished last season 0-2.
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 6:09 pm to AUX3
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There are plenty of large markets from coast to coast that could establish their own league,
the ncaa doesn't establish leagues hoss. it is a SELF-governing organization. it appears that you don't have a friggin' clue what the ncaa is much less how it works.
the ncaa is an effort of ALL UNIVERSITY'S IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA to band together and govern the way college sports are conducted. any school can leave this organization whenever it wants to. MEMBERSHIP IS VOLUNTARY.
two choices are 1) large numbers of schools leave and form their own organization or 2) large numbers of schools leave and play sports with no rules. do what you want. anarchy? or free market?
Posted on 2/16/14 at 6:21 pm to LSU GrandDad
quote:You have just given that boob a massive headache. His entire microscopic little world has just been rocked.
the ncaa doesn't establish leagues hoss. it is a SELF-governing organization. it appears that you don't have a friggin' clue what the ncaa is much less how it works. the ncaa is an effort of ALL UNIVERSITY'S IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA to band together and govern the way college sports are conducted. any school can leave this organization whenever it wants to. MEMBERSHIP IS VOLUNTARY. two choices are 1) large numbers of schools leave and form their own organization or 2) large numbers of schools leave and play sports with no rules. do what you want. anarchy? or free market?
Posted on 2/16/14 at 7:09 pm to AUX3
Hey dummy, if uou want to disband the NCAA because of a rule change this shows your utter buffoonery.
There are many reasons to disolve the NCAA and this is not one of them and shows you and those that support you to be childish.
Dr Benson ( neurology ) has testified before congress that fatigue can cause injuries.
Case closed.
There are many reasons to disolve the NCAA and this is not one of them and shows you and those that support you to be childish.
Dr Benson ( neurology ) has testified before congress that fatigue can cause injuries.
Case closed.
Posted on 2/16/14 at 7:13 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
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Dr Benson ( neurology ) has testified before congress that fatigue can cause injuries.
This is well established, but everything that one does on a football field will cause fatigue. I guess we need to outlaw kickoff and punt returns, too. Don't want football players overexerting themselves.
The premise of the thread is ridiculous, but some of our fans have gone off the deep end.
This post was edited on 2/16/14 at 7:33 pm
Posted on 2/16/14 at 7:31 pm to ErnestTBassmaster
I disagree, other sports like soccer and basketball cause fatigue, but they are not such contact sports as football and do not have 300 pound playwrs basically wrestling for 4 hours in the hot sun.
Without the safety issue every true football fan should want to see football get back to football and not basketball on grass.
Without the safety issue every true football fan should want to see football get back to football and not basketball on grass.
Posted on 2/16/14 at 7:37 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
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I disagree, other sports like soccer and basketball cause fatigue, but they are not such contact sports as football and do not have 300 pound playwrs basically wrestling for 4 hours in the hot sun.
Well, no. There is nothing specific that reflects that the HUNH causes any more or greater fatigue for the defense than for defenses facing a conventional offense.
Some congressional testimony that fatigue causes injuries? OF COURSE IT DOES. So get in shape so you won't be fatigued.
Look, I can't stand the HUNH. I like power football, strength against strength. And there are plenty of good reasons in support of a rule change. But fatigue is not where you want to hang your hat.
Posted on 2/16/14 at 7:40 pm to tkane311
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Because you, in your infinite wisdom, have decided that this needed to be said for the hundredth time, I'm picking you in particular. Let's back up here. 1. Saban realizes that he has a chink in his defensive armor. Mentions 2 years ago what was as bullshite then as it is now...that the HUNH is a safety issues. 2. Saban loses to a HUNH team...wins the national championship anyway. Won, but still has concerns. Begins to piss and moan more frequently, along with his obese counterpart in Arkansas. 3. Saban loses to its biggest rival, also a HUNH team, knocking them out of the conference championship and national championship picture...then loses to ANOTHER HUNH team..badly. 4. Becomes VERY vocal about the "safety" issues created by the HUNH. 5. Invites himself to (or is invited, depending on who you ask) a rules committee meeting during a non-rules year to discuss this "safety" issue. Fat Arky coach has some Sherpas push him over in a wheelbarrow as well. The committee does not invite anyone with an opposing view point. The committee is "moved" by their presentation. Decides they need to hear no more from anyone else in spite of a complete lack of evidence supporting their "safety" claims. 6. People with, at a minimum, a pulse and some active brain cells, take one look at this and sees it for what it is...a non-safety issue that was presented under false pretenses to have it considered in a non-rules year, a rule that would bend the game to the strengths and against the weaknesses on ONE prominent coach and one fat wannabe. 7. Polls are unilateral and OVERWHELMINGLY against the change. 8. With exception to Paul Finebaum who is trying to pretend to be neutral, every last journalist with a column or a microphone is making fun of Saban and the Arky coach. This has been discussed nationwide...find me ONE journalist that is in favor of the rule change. 9. Coaches, who normally don't throw each other under the bus if their name isn't Steve Spurrier, have been doing exactly that...HUNH and non-HUNH coaches alike...outside of the aforementioned coaches, Todd berry and Troy Calhoun, the rest of the coaching world is either silent or against. It is overwhelming. 10. We wait for the "rubber stamp" committee to examine comments from other AD's and coaches. You see, this whole thing has been a travesty...from the lack of integrity in misrepresenting the proposed rule change, to not allowing any opposing viewpoint but asking (or allowing) 2 coaches to speak to a subject no one else even knew was being discussed. That's not my opinion. It is an overwhelming national consensus. If Gus Malzahn and Hugh Freeze walked into a rules committee, unbeknownst to no one, and convinced the rules committee to change the play clock to 20 seconds, and require the quarterback to rush at least 25% of offense plays, you gumps would be furious. And you would be right to be furious. And you know what the only dumb shite anyone could say to criticize the fact that you are upset about it and rightly so? "The melt continues". You are right about one thing, troll. The melt is continuing. Only it's by fans of a team that finished last season 0-2.
Spot. fricking. On
Posted on 2/16/14 at 9:11 pm to windsor1977
And so the melt continues .....
Posted on 2/17/14 at 6:52 am to Herman Frisco
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And so the melt continues .....
Not sure of you read my long-arse post above and this is your comical response, or if you are some kind of living, breathing self-fulfilling prophecy or what...either way this made me LOL.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 7:52 am to tkane311
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Because you, in your infinite wisdom, have decided that this needed to be said for the hundredth time, I'm picking you in particular.
Let's back up here.
1. Saban realizes that he has a chink in his defensive armor. Mentions 2 years ago what was as bull shite then as it is now...that the HUNH is a safety issues.
2. Saban loses to a HUNH team...wins the national championship anyway. Won, but still has concerns. Begins to piss and moan more frequently, along with his obese counterpart in Arkansas.
3. Saban loses to its biggest rival, also a HUNH team, knocking them out of the conference championship and national championship picture...then loses to ANOTHER HUNH team..badly.
4. Becomes VERY vocal about the "safety" issues created by the HUNH.
5. Invites himself to (or is invited, depending on who you ask) a rules committee meeting during a non-rules year to discuss this "safety" issue. Fat Arky coach has some Sherpas push him over in a wheelbarrow as well. The committee does not invite anyone with an opposing view point. The committee is "moved" by their presentation. Decides they need to hear no more from anyone else in spite of a complete lack of evidence supporting their "safety" claims.
6. People with, at a minimum, a pulse and some active brain cells, take one look at this and sees it for what it is...a non-safety issue that was presented under false pretenses to have it considered in a non-rules year, a rule that would bend the game to the strengths and against the weaknesses on ONE prominent coach and one fat wannabe.
7. Polls are unilateral and OVERWHELMINGLY against the change.
8. With exception to Paul Finebaum who is trying to pretend to be neutral, every last journalist with a column or a microphone is making fun of Saban and the Arky coach. This has been discussed nationwide...find me ONE journalist that is in favor of the rule change.
9. Coaches, who normally don't throw each other under the bus if their name isn't Steve Spurrier, have been doing exactly that...HUNH and non-HUNH coaches alike...outside of the aforementioned coaches, Todd berry and Troy Calhoun, the rest of the coaching world is either silent or against. It is overwhelming.
10. We wait for the "rubber stamp" committee to examine comments from other AD's and coaches.
You see, this whole thing has been a travesty...from the lack of integrity in misrepresenting the proposed rule change, to not allowing any opposing viewpoint but asking (or allowing) 2 coaches to speak to a subject no one else even knew was being discussed. That's not my opinion. It is an overwhelming national consensus.
If Gus Malzahn and Hugh Freeze walked into a rules committee, unbeknownst to no one, and convinced the rules committee to change the play clock to 20 seconds, and require the quarterback to rush at least 25% of offense plays, you gumps would be furious. And you would be right to be furious. And you know what the only dumb shite anyone could say to criticize the fact that you are upset about it and rightly so?
"The melt continues". You are right about one thing, troll. The melt is continuing. Only it's by fans of a team that finished last season 0-2.
This is excellent. Of course it won't be read by many, and that's a shame.
I almost didn't open this thread because it seems silly to think of splitting from the NCAA. But there are things that need to be addressed, and I just wonder why other programs don't mind the favoritism bammer is shown.
Lil nicky went whining to the ncaa about having to play teams with off weeks the week before playing them. Poof. Got that taken care of. What about schedules? Seems like the wee one is afraid to play the big boys in the east so magically that is taken care of for him.
Recruiting violations are just ignored and funneling money to players via a menswear store and an assistant coach are just what bammer does. No advantage there. Nothing to see at all.
No advantage at all at having the NCAA in your back pocket, but maybe with all this publicity folks will begin to see that not everyone has their old friend Emmert taking care of things for them. Most programs would just like the proverbial level playing field and get out there and enjoy the game as it is meant to be played without backdoor politics every time you turn around.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 9:00 am to tampajoe
quote:If folks honestly believe what's written here, I can't understand why they would, for a second, want to remain in the NCAA. Those people need to lobby their university administrators and political leaders to disassociate themselves from the Association. If you folks are in the majority, then you can collectively get your wish and form another organization that your school is more "suited" for. All this bitching and complaining about everything within the organization isn't doing anybody a bit of good, and just like a bad marriage, needs to end so that all parties can go their separate ways in peace...JMO.
I almost didn't open this thread because it seems silly to think of splitting from the NCAA. But there are things that need to be addressed, and I just wonder why other programs don't mind the favoritism bammer is shown. Lil nicky went whining to the ncaa about having to play teams with off weeks the week before playing them. Poof. Got that taken care of. What about schedules? Seems like the wee one is afraid to play the big boys in the east so magically that is taken care of for him. Recruiting violations are just ignored and funneling money to players via a menswear store and an assistant coach are just what bammer does. No advantage there. Nothing to see at all. No advantage at all at having the NCAA in your back pocket, but maybe with all this publicity folks will begin to see that not everyone has their old friend Emmert taking care of things for them. Most programs would just like the proverbial level playing field and get out there and enjoy the game as it is meant to be played without backdoor politics every time you turn around.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 9:18 am to coachcrisp
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If folks honestly believe what's written here, I can't understand why they would, for a second, want to remain in the NCAA. Those people need to lobby their university administrators and political leaders to disassociate themselves from the Association. If you folks are in the majority, then you can collectively get your wish and form another organization that your school is more "suited" for. All this bitching and complaining about everything within the organization isn't doing anybody a bit of good, and just like a bad marriage, needs to end so that all parties can go their separate ways in peace...JMO.
I've asked the same thing about the SEC. If you believe that the SEC is willfully helping Bama why are you not at your universities athletic department this morning demanding action. Either you believe this, in which case you are accepting something that is so outrageous as to be criminal or its just something that you say because you do not want to accept that Alabama is the dominant SEC and national program that it is. You can't have it both ways.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 9:36 am to StopRobot
quote:For the life of me, I can't understand why people would subject themselves to this frustration unless they derive some kind of pleasure from it.....ummmmmm.
I've asked the same thing about the SEC. If you believe that the SEC is willfully helping Bama why are you not at your universities athletic department this morning demanding action. Either you believe this, in which case you are accepting something that is so outrageous as to be criminal or its just something that you say because you do not want to accept that Alabama is the dominant SEC and national program that it is. You can't have it both ways.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 9:41 am to coachcrisp
Bama basketball fans agree
Posted on 2/17/14 at 9:46 am to StopRobot
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you do not want to accept that Alabama is the dominant SEC and national program that it is.
Just according to how they got that way. Lil nicky is not the best coach ever or is he the best recruiter ever. Atrocious personality. But somehow they can stockpile 5* players, some of them giving up all hope of playing just to sit on bammer's bench. The promise of sending players to the NFL is there - although most of them flop when they get there - is one reason. What are others?
All the extra benefits through signing autographs and "borrowing" money from coaches? Probably pretty attractive.
If all programs were treated equally, there would be less "bitching and moaning."
I think the public is now beginning to see that a relationship between a college coach and the president of the NCAA is wrong, especially one who blatantly seems to favor this coach.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 9:46 am to tkane311
When you write novels to defend your meltdown, that means you are melting HARD. I will pray for you, tkane, that this melt doesnt straight up kill you.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 9:48 am to tampajoe
Would you like some cheese with that whine?
Posted on 2/17/14 at 9:49 am to Funky Tide 8
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When you write novels to defend your meltdown, that means you are melting HARD. I will pray for you, tkane, that this melt doesnt straight up kill you.
You're substituting the word MELTING for anything you don't enjoy hearing.
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