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Opting into NCAA 2025 Dilemma
Posted on 2/22/24 at 9:52 pm
Posted on 2/22/24 at 9:52 pm
Been seeing some players have opted in, and will get $600 and a free copy of the game. Now, I’m reading, some teams might not opt in (reject the initial offer) to drive up the offer.
What would you guys do? I see the logic on both sides. One, it’s cool and and an “honor” and everyone should just be grateful. Hate that logic to be honest. And on the other hand, I can see the logic of a whole team opting out, let’s say Ohio State (to not use an SEC example), and opt in if the offer jumps to $2k per player. Apparently, some schools are discussing that route.
Either way, EAsports will easily make stupid money now that games sell stuff on the games (skins, upgrades, etc.). I think EAsports made $1.8 billion from just Fifa 2023.
Would you guys opt in for $600, or wait and see if y’all were star players? It will be interesting to see what players and schools do, especially big names.
What would you guys do? I see the logic on both sides. One, it’s cool and and an “honor” and everyone should just be grateful. Hate that logic to be honest. And on the other hand, I can see the logic of a whole team opting out, let’s say Ohio State (to not use an SEC example), and opt in if the offer jumps to $2k per player. Apparently, some schools are discussing that route.
Either way, EAsports will easily make stupid money now that games sell stuff on the games (skins, upgrades, etc.). I think EAsports made $1.8 billion from just Fifa 2023.
Would you guys opt in for $600, or wait and see if y’all were star players? It will be interesting to see what players and schools do, especially big names.
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Posted on 2/22/24 at 9:57 pm to JayAg
Might sound dumb, but a school opting out of this game could negatively impact recruiting.
Bold, bold decision over what amounts to a couple hundred bucks a month or less.
Bold, bold decision over what amounts to a couple hundred bucks a month or less.
This post was edited on 2/22/24 at 9:59 pm
Posted on 2/22/24 at 10:02 pm to Tuscaloosa
I’ll rebuttal that it depends on Gen Z I guess bc they never had the game before. I always liked Madden over NCAA, bc on the old NCAA game, you could just run hail mary’s, and were guaranteed to hit one out of every 3 tries. Just became a game of who got one or 2 stops to win, at least in my experience.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 10:03 pm to Tuscaloosa
Have to agree with Tusc on this one. Seems like free marketing, but the schools do have some leverage to hold out for a bit of cash.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 10:05 pm to MetryMauler
I’d assume only schools that have strong brands have leverage. If I’m BYU, I take what I can get.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 10:05 pm to JayAg
I hope a bunch of teams opt out. It is a shite show now. And I am a bigger is better kind of guy.
We thought it would be CTE that killed college football. But we were wrong about what killed it.
We thought it would be CTE that killed college football. But we were wrong about what killed it.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 10:06 pm to JayAg
I can only speak for myself, but as an avid gamer back in the day..(still am when I have time, so not often) if I were a CFB player it would be an honor to have my name, number and stats (arbitrary or otherwise) forever immortalized in a game. Maybe I'm still looking at it through the lens of a pre-NIL world where CFB is still pretending to be an amateur sport, but money comes and goes wether it's $600, $6k or much more than that..but I'd always have copies of the game to pull out for my kids or grandkids...show them grandpa was a badass!
Of course with pro players it's different, but they also aren't getting free room and board and a small stipend for other needs from their university...and also most have kids and family to take care of so getting money for their likeness in a game is essential.
Of course with pro players it's different, but they also aren't getting free room and board and a small stipend for other needs from their university...and also most have kids and family to take care of so getting money for their likeness in a game is essential.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 10:14 pm to 49 to nada
Fairly positive all the schools have already signed up and it's up to each individual play whether or not they opt in. There's not a single person out there that won't buy the game if "Player X" isn't in the game. Might as well take the $600 and the free game.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 10:21 pm to BamaDude06
I’m not much of a gamer, but I do still own a console so I know what you mean. I did see, for example, Nuss opted in. If he was on the Heisman track, and NCAA sold a Nuss upgrade/player card/skin for $20, and made like $2M off of it. Then I don’t want to see people after the fact say he should have gotten more money. Bc let’s be clear, EAsports will probably sell a lot of in-game stuff like that to max out their profit. Maybe this will be the test run, and 3 years down the road, the numbers will change.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 10:23 pm to JayAg
I have a bad feeling this will be a one-and-done game.
It'll likely be built on the Madden game engine (which is awful).
With a piss poor game engine and EA sports having to pay players and deal with threats of opting out for entire schools, I don't see this sticking.
It'll likely be built on the Madden game engine (which is awful).
With a piss poor game engine and EA sports having to pay players and deal with threats of opting out for entire schools, I don't see this sticking.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 10:53 pm to JayAg
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Would you guys opt in for $600, or wait and see if y’all were star players?
They have no leverage, the game will be made whether they're in it or not. If I'm a player, I'd much rather be in it than not.
CFB is more about the programs than individual players.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 11:09 pm to SidewalkTiger
Yeah, I am curious what gamers think overall and if they would buy the in game extras for their teams or players. I’m not the best representative of that community bc I like Fortnite from time to time, but I never buy any skins or extras. But I know plenty of gamers, and my nephews and their friends who have dropped hundreds on skins and season passes (of their parents money). I wonder if NCAA will be received by that group, or if most will be people who played NCAA before.
This post was edited on 2/22/24 at 11:11 pm
Posted on 2/22/24 at 11:10 pm to JayAg
EA has already stated that all FBS teams have signed on. I would guess that would be a multiyear media deal.
No school wants to be left out here. Future recruits will grow up playing this.
No school wants to be left out here. Future recruits will grow up playing this.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 11:23 pm to JayAg
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Now, I’m reading, some teams might not opt in (reject the initial offer) to drive up the offer.
Weird time to post this when they literally announced today that all teams will be in it.
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Posted on 2/22/24 at 11:31 pm to BigBinBR
I read an opinion based article of what if players opted out. I didn’t know that in Madden, only Bill Belichick opted out. Then I looked at how much pro players make for their NIL in madden.
Hence, I wanted to start a discussion if NCAA will eventually pay out more.
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what are NFL players getting paid for Madden?' And the numbers we were given were from 2019, it was disclosed that they got, I think, about $17,000. And then a current NFL player told us that he got a check for $28,000 this year for Madden. . .
Hence, I wanted to start a discussion if NCAA will eventually pay out more.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 11:33 pm to ForeverGator
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It'll likely be built on the Madden game engine (which is awful).
Not likely. They said it will be.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 11:35 pm to Beachbum87
I wonder why NCAA is paying a flat fee to players, but Madden seems to pay a commission.
Posted on 2/23/24 at 2:53 am to captdalton
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We thought it would be CTE that killed college football. But we were wrong about what killed it.
The NCAA killed it with their playing favorites in enforcement.
I understand why YOU'D disagree, as you're a GUMP.
Posted on 2/23/24 at 5:58 am to ForeverGator
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It'll likely be built on the Madden game engine (which is awful).
Every NCAA game was, so yeah
Posted on 2/23/24 at 6:36 am to JayAg
The game will never come out if they start individually negotiating. Give an offer and if a team wants to hold things up then move on and leave them out: Let the teams that want to be bitches deal with pissed off fans until the next release…
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