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Posted on 6/2/16 at 8:25 am to Asharad
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OM's NOA Inside by Asharad
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ESPN Gameday producer says that Ole Miss was best gameday experience ever.
How much did your boosters pay for that endorsement?
The same producer said the same thing about every game day location they have. Kind of like every UFC pay per view "is the most anticipated fight in UFC history." Until next months pay per view. OM fans go into strip joints and believe it when the strippers lap dance and rub on them, then proclaim "mmmm baby you have the biggest unit in this bar."
Posted on 6/2/16 at 8:27 am to SouthOfHere
They didn't say it about Starkville. 
Posted on 6/2/16 at 9:03 am to Rebman
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Honestly, it's surprising that every recruit doesn't want to come play here!
By the time this is said and done, it'll be simply because they don't want to play intramural flag football.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 12:03 am to Fratigerguy
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By the time this is said and done, it'll be simply because they don't want to play intramural flag football.
I think they will have a team but I will be very surprised if there isn't a long postseason ban, and long term major scholarship reductions.
They will be an automatic 7th place in the west for at least 5 years.
This post was edited on 6/3/16 at 12:04 am
Posted on 6/3/16 at 5:47 am to FishFearMe
Wasn't long ago this place was flooded with OM fans.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 6:59 am to LuzianaFootball
Maybe they are finally learning the lesson that their coach needs to get- shut the hell up about it and things might actually die down a bit, at least in the media.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 8:07 am to FishFearMe
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I will be very surprised if there isn't a long postseason ban, and long term major scholarship reductions.
The NCAA doesn't really do long bans. Bama only got two years for Albert Means. I am not saying we won't get any punishment but people who think the NCAA will seek to cripple us in the long term will be disappointed. It isn't because it is OM, it is simply the nature of the NCAA. Now probations can go over longer term so you better stay out of trouble.
This post was edited on 6/3/16 at 9:54 am
Posted on 6/3/16 at 9:48 am to FishFearMe
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They will be an automatic 7th place in the west for at least 5 years.
So, back to normal?
Posted on 6/3/16 at 9:53 am to GnashRebel
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The NCAA doesn't really do long bans. Bama only got two years for Albert Means. I am not saying we won't get any punishment but people who think the NCAA will seek to cripple us in the long term will be disappointed. It isn't because it is OM, it is simply the nature of the NCAA. No probations can go over longer term so you better stay out of trouble.
I don't see more than a two year post season ban. Too much money wrapped up in tv deals. But I do expect the NCAA to use ole miss as proof that they aren't castrated. After Miami and auburn, they have a lot of egg on their face. I'm thinking it'll be 20-25 scholarships over 4-5 years.
The only way a long ban gets implemented, is if the second letter comes. Then, y'all are screwed.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:00 am to CCTider
Despite the focus of many posters on the Freeze era problems, those are not the ones that would result in massive punishment. Small amounts of money from boosters and kids on couches do not scare me like the Saunders troubles. That was big time trouble. If they decide not to let us get over with the passage of time they could really whack us good. The rest is less scary.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:14 am to GnashRebel
I've read the entire thing. I think the Ncaa had already began a second investigation even before the Tunsil text messages but I'm sure they will add that too.
What is most significant were things like Freeze sitting next to a booster in the home of a recruit. The grade fixing goes back a ways but everyone knew many of those star athletes would not qualify without rigging test scores.
Add to that the number of level 1 infractions, even level 2 and it's bad news. But the worse part in all of this is that the Ncaa felt lied to and that a new investigation is still ongoing. I don't know how you escape all that, homestly I don't. You have 3 current assistant coaches with infractions plus an assistant AD in text messages discussing payments and how they agreed on a set sum of money. I just don't think OM escapes all of this, edpecially with the mational attention and media claiming they were also misled.
What is most significant were things like Freeze sitting next to a booster in the home of a recruit. The grade fixing goes back a ways but everyone knew many of those star athletes would not qualify without rigging test scores.
Add to that the number of level 1 infractions, even level 2 and it's bad news. But the worse part in all of this is that the Ncaa felt lied to and that a new investigation is still ongoing. I don't know how you escape all that, homestly I don't. You have 3 current assistant coaches with infractions plus an assistant AD in text messages discussing payments and how they agreed on a set sum of money. I just don't think OM escapes all of this, edpecially with the mational attention and media claiming they were also misled.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:27 am to MullenBoys
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I just don't think OM escapes all of this, edpecially with the mational attention and media claiming they were also misled
That's a good point. A lot of ole miss friendly journalist were intentionally lied to. You know that several of them are mad as hell, and would love to find more dirt.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:50 am to MullenBoys
I don't think they will escape unscathed. But a lot of the violations were the kind that the NCAA typically says "don't do that again" to, especially the Freeze era stuff. And some of that was self reported. The Tunsil stuff, pre-draft day at least, was known for a long time and the NCAA accepted the 7 game suspension. The NCAA hasn't shown any desire to punish beyond that in other cases of players getting cash so I don't know if that will be as big a deal as some think. The Draft Night stuff I think depends on how good Ole Miss' song and dance is and whether they dig anything up or if they find dead ends. I still go back to the Saunders stuff as the linchpin, because if the NCAA decides it doesn't care about the age of the crime, it is the kind of thing that SHOULD get a program hammered, much more so than small time booster stuff. Honestly, it is difficult to understand how the NCAA decides what it cares about and what it does not.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 12:26 pm to GnashRebel
Never fails to watch homer fans talk about this case........everything seems to be based on what you "hope" the NCAA will do instead of reality. I mean, what are the chances that they decide to lessen the affect of everything they found in your favor? Also, are you basing that they "knew" about the new Tunsil stuff on factual info or is it based on the same "sources" that have been wrong at pretty much every turn.
I get you don't want to be in trouble, but quit trying to rationalize it so that Ole Miss gets the win on every allegation. Like the old lady says, "That's not how it works"......
I get you don't want to be in trouble, but quit trying to rationalize it so that Ole Miss gets the win on every allegation. Like the old lady says, "That's not how it works"......
This post was edited on 6/3/16 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 6/3/16 at 12:58 pm to We_R_The_Tide
What are you talking about? I said I think we will get punished. I just said I didn't think it would be long term post season bans. When has the NCAA ever given out long term post season bans? I also said a lot of it depends on whether the NCAA considers the Saunders mess water mostly under the bridge or wants to send a message. I am being realistic and recognize it could go several ways. It is posters like you who attempt to turn reasonable conversations into hatefests.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 1:23 pm to GnashRebel
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I don't think they will escape unscathed. But a lot of the violations were the kind that the NCAA typically says "don't do that again" to, especially the Freeze era stuff. And some of that was self reported.
You know it might be different if each of these were found alone, with no others.....but I sorry, add them all together and you get a hot mess. Further more, add it to multiple sports with multiple coaches and AD's and I'm not sure I would say to Ole Miss "don't do it again".
As for the self reported stuff, you guys act like they found most of this stuff all by themselves, and called the NCAA and said "Look what we've been doing".......Wrong, you guys were told about several inappropriate actions and while both you and the NCAA were investigating them, you found them and was worried they would to, so you "self-reported".
This post was edited on 6/3/16 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 6/3/16 at 2:19 pm to We_R_The_Tide
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You know it might be different if each of these where found alone, with no others.....but I sorry, add them all together and you get a hot mess. Further more, add it to multiple sports with multiple coaches and AD's and I'm not sure I would say to Ole Miss "don't do it again".
Great summary of why Ole Miss is fixin' to get a NCAA, white hot, spiked phallus poker, straight up the arse.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 3:44 pm to GnashRebel
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I don't think they will escape unscathed. But a lot of the violations were the kind that the NCAA typically says "don't do that again" to, especially the Freeze era stuff. And some of that was self reported. The Tunsil stuff, pre-draft day at least, was known for a long time and the NCAA accepted the 7 game suspension. The NCAA hasn't shown any desire to punish beyond that in other cases of players getting cash so I don't know if that will be as big a deal as some think. The Draft Night stuff I think depends on how good Ole Miss' song and dance is and whether they dig anything up or if they find dead ends. I still go back to the Saunders stuff as the linchpin, because if the NCAA decides it doesn't care about the age of the crime, it is the kind of thing that SHOULD get a program hammered, much more so than small time booster stuff. Honestly, it is difficult to understand how the NCAA decides what it cares about and what it does not.
there is more...
Posted on 6/3/16 at 5:52 pm to GnashRebel
Agreed. They will place a ban long enough that most of the talented players will either not play in a bowl or transfer.
Which will effectively cripple OM for much longer than 2 years.
Which will effectively cripple OM for much longer than 2 years.
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