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re: Ole Miss NCAA punishment predictions thread

Posted on 5/12/16 at 1:04 pm to
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Atlanta GA - ITP
Member since Sep 2012
24933 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

4 year bowl ban


lol...that's crazy. I would be surprised if they even got a one year bowl ban.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
30875 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 1:05 pm to
20 over 4
Forfeiture of wins
2 year bowl ban
6 year probation
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4582 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 1:11 pm to
30 schollies over 3, 3 year probation, no bowl ban, 3 show causes for current coaching staff. Vacated wins over past 3 years as well.
Posted by GatorReb
Dallas GA
Member since Feb 2009
9280 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 1:12 pm to
quote:

25 over 4
4 year bowl ban
vacated wins
probation
someone on the staff is the sacrificial lamb and gets canned



People like you are why this whole situation is gonna be funny for us. Because it will be nowhere near that. And while we are the ones getting penalties ya'll will be the ones melting because you had MASSIVE penalty in mind that isn't gonna happen.

There won't be a post season ban.
Posted by Chris Warner
Perdido Bay
Member since Jan 2009
5575 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 1:12 pm to
Death penalty
Posted by jumbo
Franklin
Member since Dec 2011
4597 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 1:15 pm to
We'll see. The parallels between this and USC are very similar.
Posted by TampaReb
Member since Aug 2015
1823 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 1:17 pm to
So there is a LOIC?

And you can hope for your second letter but right now look at the one that's there. But no one knows if that is even happening.
Posted by jumbo
Franklin
Member since Dec 2011
4597 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 1:19 pm to
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And you can hope for your second letter but right now look at the one that's there. But no one knows if that is even happening.



Nobody even knows what's in the first letter. We'll hopefully find out in 10 days.

Remember how this whole thing started it was only track and women's basketball? If there are violations across 3 sports I don't know how there isn't LOIC.
This post was edited on 5/12/16 at 1:20 pm
Posted by DawgGone
Member since Oct 2014
1109 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

Vacated wins


That's about the only way Bama. LSU and State can beat the Rebels. That God for the Hogs.
Posted by Tigerkane79
Member since Oct 2013
304 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 1:22 pm to
You went from being identical to Miami with 9 over 3 years to now 9-12 over three years pretty quick
Posted by WithaRebelYell
Bristol TN
Member since Jan 2013
4859 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 1:31 pm to
75 scholarships over 3 years. We can only play walk ons.

150 year bowl ban.

Indefinitely on probation.

We deserve so much more.
Posted by WithaRebelYell
Bristol TN
Member since Jan 2013
4859 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 1:32 pm to
Oh and vacate every win we have ever had.
Posted by VicVinegar03
Member since Apr 2016
149 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 1:32 pm to
Probably not that much tbh
Posted by TampaReb
Member since Aug 2015
1823 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 1:32 pm to
Because the NCAA came on campus once we self reported basketball working with the NCAA found the other violations. That is institutional control to discover and act to correct. It is about the school either looking the other way like USC or knowing and not reporting it or stopping it.
Posted by jumbo
Franklin
Member since Dec 2011
4597 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 1:37 pm to
Pardon me if I have a hard time believing your administration with the way this has played out.
Posted by Larry
Collierville, TN
Member since Jul 2004
5454 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 1:37 pm to
quote:

Because the NCAA came on campus once we self reported basketball working with the NCAA found the other violations. That is institutional control to discover and act to correct. It is about the school either looking the other way like USC or knowing and not reporting it or stopping it.



Did USC involve money changing hands between school officials and players or just boosters? I honestly don't remember.

I think if it was a rogue booster case you wouldn't be vacating wins and there would be a minimal loss of scholarships. With the coaching staff actively paying players, I think its not going to be death penalty or anything close to it but I think a bowl ban and some significant scholarship losses are coming.
This post was edited on 5/12/16 at 1:38 pm
Posted by jumbo
Franklin
Member since Dec 2011
4597 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 1:39 pm to
USC was a rogue booster/agent that bought a house for Reggie Bush or his family. The NCAA never actually proved who paid him, but they still used it and linked it with the basketball team and violations around OJ Mayo and hit them with LOIC.

With the NCAA it's not them having to prove what they find, it's the school having to prove they didn't do what the NCAA says they did.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46507 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 1:41 pm to
People need to remember that it isn't what you did, it's how damning the NCAA's evidence is and how public it is made. The NCAA is more about perception than reality, and they need to be perceived as tough in cases with lots of very public evidence.

Ole Miss' violations are now as public as any we've seen in recent years, with them essentially being THE story of the NFL Draft. Even people who only watch the NFL are aware of them now. That combined with the damning physical evidence (with no doubt more coming once the full findings are released by the NCAA this summer/fall) and I can't imagine them getting off lightly.
Posted by Larry
Collierville, TN
Member since Jul 2004
5454 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 1:41 pm to
Is there a case other than SMU of money exchanging hands between actual members of the coaching staff and players?
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32236 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 1:43 pm to
quote:

Because the NCAA came on campus once we self reported basketball working with the NCAA found the other violations. That is institutional control to discover and act to correct. It is about the school either looking the other way like USC or knowing and not reporting it or stopping it
If the payments to Tunsil and family prove to be true and were done while you were already under investigation is pretty damning and kind of like an "up your's NCAA". That's pretty out of control - if the time line holds up.
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